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LosingGrip

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8,539 posts

179 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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Bound to be some Football Manager fans on PH.

I had 2010 to 2015 then a break until 2022. I've wasted too many hours on them (I would say countless but Stream kindly tells me I played 1,400 of 2011 and 1,500 hours of 2012!).

I normally go for Southampton as I support them but decided to go for a lower league team this time. Weymouth who I've managed to get into League 2. Missed out on the playoffs for League 1 by three points which was annoying!

Its changed a lot since I played it last. Already up to 75 hours since last week (helps that I've got COVID).

Tuvra

7,926 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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LosingGrip said:
Bound to be some Football Manager fans on PH.

I had 2010 to 2015 then a break until 2022. I've wasted too many hours on them (I would say countless but Stream kindly tells me I played 1,400 of 2011 and 1,500 hours of 2012!).

I normally go for Southampton as I support them but decided to go for a lower league team this time. Weymouth who I've managed to get into League 2. Missed out on the playoffs for League 1 by three points which was annoying!

Its changed a lot since I played it last. Already up to 75 hours since last week (helps that I've got COVID).
Yeah I used to be into it, I have the latest one through Game Pass but haven't played it at all.

I have some memorable games in the past, my main one making Atalanta the best side in Europe using as many Italian players as possible, the highlight was when I had 11/11 in my starting XI that won the Treble and overall something like 19/25 of my squad were Italian. I was appointed Italian national coach as well, despite having the majority of my top drawer players I couldn't get them to perform in an Italy shirt and I quit after 12 months and a poor World Cup Performance frown

For me though, last years one was just a bit too much. There's so much to do and I find it draining. Yes you can delegate but I find when you do that your staff are morons and do and say stupid things. I hate the fact your players can get the hump and your squad can be demoralised because of something your assistant said?!? Surely there should be an option to say "actually, hes talking through his arse" and then your assistant would react to that by kicking off or apologising.

blue_haddock

4,732 posts

87 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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I've been playing for many many years but haven't played it on pc for quite a while, i've actually got it on my psp and play it when on flights and train journeys.

Yes the database is out of date but once you are a few seasons in its all auto generated so it doesnt matter too much.

Chuffedmonkey

970 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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I used to lose weekends to Championship Manager and then Football Manager especially from the late 90's up until about 7 or 8 years ago. I bought a tower PC every few years or upgraded the RAM just so it would run the game.

My most vivid memory was playing over weekends drinking beer whilst bingeing the series of 24. The first year I played it, Pierre Van Hooijdonk played for Forrest and Denilson had just signed for Real Betis for 14 million if my memory serves me right. Now I am not old by any means just lucky I had access to a PC at home during the internet dial up era.

I have just looked at my file history and the last data I have regarding FM was from 2017 but I remember hardly playing it. I think from around 2014/15 on it just became too much as it evolved to the point where there was too much to do and it took the fun out of it. I used to always set my scouts routine and let the assistant take on training but on the newer games that didn't seem too effective. The tactic set up started to become insane too.

It either became too involved or I got old. I do always think about giving it another run but I just don't have the time anymore.

Just edited for the below.

I only used to use the 2d/3d camera pitch view for goals as I was used to just reading the text at the bottom of the screen. The game in the early years definitely gave me the ability to read very fast and pick up key words. Today I still skim documents fast and still take in the info that that is required so it had an education purpose too.

Edited by Chuffedmonkey on Tuesday 22 February 20:12

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Whenever anyone mentions Football Manager, all I can think of is this


Dan_1981

17,876 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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You mean Champ Manager... Right?

97/98 was the pinnacle.

Ibrahim Bakayoko.
Phill Babb.
Erik Nevland.


Ahhh they were the days.

Squirrelofwoe

3,232 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I've been playing every one since FM 2017, generally average about 200-250 hours each year which still seems pretty good value for money.

I may end breaking that on FM 22 as I'm at about 120 hours already, although I did have some Covid time before Christmas. I love the newer versions, but I still can't bring myself to watch the matches in 3D- it's 2D overhead view all the way!

It's my go-to 'chilling out on the sofa with a beer' game at the weekend. My wife calls it spreadsheet simulator. However our cats seem to love it, I guess it's the little dots scurrying around the screen during matches hehe

Fast Bug

13,088 posts

181 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I play FM Mobile, you don't the faff of the main game and it's much easier to play the odd game here and there. 10 minutes on the loo? Brilliant, can get a couple of matches in. Sat in the car waiting to pick the kids up? Another couple of matches played.

Downsides are that you can only pick 6 leagues to play so you can't start in the Croatian second division and end up bering the Barca manager, but you miss out on having to do the dull press conferences etc

Zetec-S

6,562 posts

113 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Chuffedmonkey said:
I used to lose weekends to Championship Manager and then Football Manager especially from the late 90's up until about 7 or 8 years ago. I bought a tower PC every few years or upgraded the RAM just so it would run the game.

My most vivid memory was playing over weekends drinking beer whilst bingeing the series of 24. The first year I played it, Pierre Van Hooijdonk played for Forrest and Denilson had just signed for Real Betis for 14 million if my memory serves me right. Now I am not old by any means just lucky I had access to a PC at home during the internet dial up era.

I have just looked at my file history and the last data I have regarding FM was from 2017 but I remember hardly playing it. I think from around 2014/15 on it just became too much as it evolved to the point where there was too much to do and it took the fun out of it. I used to always set my scouts routine and let the assistant take on training but on the newer games that didn't seem too effective. The tactic set up started to become insane too.

It either became too involved or I got old. I do always think about giving it another run but I just don't have the time anymore.

Just edited for the below.

I only used to use the 2d/3d camera pitch view for goals as I was used to just reading the text at the bottom of the screen. The game in the early years definitely gave me the ability to read very fast and pick up key words. Today I still skim documents fast and still take in the info that that is required so it had an education purpose too.

Edited by Chuffedmonkey on Tuesday 22 February 20:12
Sounds very much like me.

My first foray into this genre was Ultimate Soccer Manager on the Amiga, before getting into Champ Manager in the late 90's. Taking Leyton Orient up and making them European Champions is one of my enduring memories. Like you I think it's how I learned to skim read hehe

I always remember wishing the games were more in depth, but after a decade or so where life and responsibilities got in the way of gaming, I gave it a go again, something like FM 2014/15. On first glance it had all the extra features I wished for when I was younger, but after a couple of hours of gameplay I realised I really couldn't be arsed with it all and longed for the simpler days. Think I probably lasted about half a season before giving up.

I might give the mobile version a go, sounds like it might be a little more accessible.

TO73074E

493 posts

47 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Yes, currently running a save with Bolton Wanderers and doing quite well. It can seem quite daunting at first if you have jumped back into the newer versions of the game after not playing it for a few years. There is a lot to do when you first get started but I find that part quite enjoyable. As a lower league team you need to free up funds so you will need to identify which players you want to keep and who to sell and hopefully generate some funds.

I'm currently 33 games into the 2022/2023 season sitting 2nd in the Championship. The previous season I managed to win League 1 on the last day of the season after sitting in 2nd spot nearly all season only momentarily going 1st on goal difference. I won with 101 points, Sheffield Wednesday came 2nd on 100 points!

Squirrelofwoe

3,232 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I love getting several seasons in and seeing the randomness that the FM AI has come up with- Eddie Howe is currently Bayern Munich boss, whilst Brendan Rodgers is managing Real Madrid! rotate

blue_haddock

4,732 posts

87 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Zetec-S said:
I might give the mobile version a go, sounds like it might be a little more accessible.
Thats basically why i still play on older simpler version on my psp.

ComStrike

461 posts

113 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I've played this since the very start of CM.
Last year's 21 i was top 500 in the world, however it took over my life. Every evening for 5 to 6 hours.
I think i've sickened myself this year with 22.
However what a game.

ComStrike

461 posts

113 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Just checked my hours
20 - 478 hours
21 - 674 hours
22 - 75 hours

Looking at my totals since 2012 i've averaged 400 hours a year. Jeezo

anonymous-user

74 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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ComStrike said:
I've played this since the very start of CM.
Last year's 21 i was top 500 in the world, however it took over my life. Every evening for 5 to 6 hours.
I think i've sickened myself this year with 22.
However what a game.

Radec

5,275 posts

67 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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The gaming equivalent of crack.
Used to play it so much in the late 90's, come back from school and log on and I wouldn't leave the desk until bedtime even meal times were done at the pc.
All free time was dedicated to champ manager.
Good thing I got a gf as who knows how I would have ended up lol.
Bakayoko must have got me about 40/50 goals a season.

Ruskie

4,334 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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My fav trick was to buy myself, at the time a lowly league 2 player and stick myself on £25k a week with a huge signing on fee biggrin

Chuffedmonkey

970 posts

126 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Own up, who would save the game before a cup final and then load the saved file if you didn't win? Me? Never......type

tribalsurfer

1,230 posts

139 months

Thursday 24th February 2022
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Been playing it for nearly 40 years, started off with the very original one on the Acorn Electron and through it's Championship Manager iteration and back to FM.

There have clearly been easier ones over the years. Championship Manager 03/04 with the Diablo tactic was fun. Favourite player just because of his sheer numbers was the mighty Supat Rungratsamee (if you don't recall him, google it !!!!). He never made it in real life but was a CM legend.

dapprman

2,671 posts

287 months

Thursday 24th February 2022
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I used to play football manager games - spent far too much time on them when they were simpler, including on my old Commodore Vic-20. Thing is a number of years back I tried a demo of a new game and it was just too complicated to get in to. If I were to try one of the present batch which do you guys consider to be best and how frustrating/miocromanaging do they now become.