Steam controller, VR and Machine
Discussion
nigelpugh7 said:
I can t wait for one of these, so I can play all my steam games on my big TV in the living room.
I might just get one only to play all of the Half Life games again.
We can only dream that Half Life 3 comes out withe this release next year too!
You can actually already play all your steam games on a big TV in the living room if you use a streaming app like Steam Link or Moonlight and stream them from your PC. I might just get one only to play all of the Half Life games again.
We can only dream that Half Life 3 comes out withe this release next year too!
Steam link is available for a bunch of smart TVs/ STBs and Moonlight has an AndroidTV version.
ecsrobin said:
The Steam Frame is great but maybe not as much of a leap as I hoped for over the Quest3 and the Steam Machine, 'Gabecube', is really decent but not that useful to me personally. Though I think it could do a great job of competing with consoles. Maybe if it succeeds they'll do a higher-specced model to offer high-end gaming.
I have been wondering whether to upgrade my steam deck, but instead I think I'll probably pick up the headset and dig out my gaming pc from the attic,
the machine doesn't seem powerful enough for VR at a glance?
VR game revenue is tiny these days and shrinking, and given foveated streaming feature is designed to maximise quality o the fully rendered stream rather than save on rendering full VR images. I'm guessing it's very much designed with 2d gaming mostly in mind.
the machine doesn't seem powerful enough for VR at a glance?
VR game revenue is tiny these days and shrinking, and given foveated streaming feature is designed to maximise quality o the fully rendered stream rather than save on rendering full VR images. I'm guessing it's very much designed with 2d gaming mostly in mind.
Lucas Ayde said:
You can actually already play all your steam games on a big TV in the living room if you use a streaming app like Steam Link or Moonlight and stream them from your PC.
Steam link is available for a bunch of smart TVs/ STBs and Moonlight has an AndroidTV version.
Yes I know bud, sadly my Panasonic Viera TV is not the type with built in Android app support, so it won’t work with Steam Link.Steam link is available for a bunch of smart TVs/ STBs and Moonlight has an AndroidTV version.
Also my gaming pc is in the office upstairs, and would prefer not to have that running at the sa e time,
So one of these sat beneath my TV sounded like a good alternative.
nigelpugh7 said:
Also my gaming pc is in the office upstairs, and would prefer not to have that running at the sa e time,
That's the biggest downer for me - I am too lazy to run upstairs and switch the PC on half the time when I feel the urge to play something. I do use cloud gaming quite a bit (Geforce Now and Luna) which gets around it to some extent but doesn't support all my games. On top of that I've also got a Steamdeck on a Steam Dock that's plugged into the telly which runs a surprising amount of Steam games well enough so I'm unlikely to want to fork out for a Steam Machine even though it does look like a damn nice bit of kit. Also have a PS5 which is chronically underused, more used for UHD movies than games at the moment.
If I was looking to buy an Xbox or PS5, I think a Steam Machine would definitely be in the running instead especially if the price is right.
Valve are in a unique position that they are privately owned and so don't have to cater to shareholders, they make over $3 million profit per employee annually.
They sold the steam deck originally at a loss (mainly due to the chip shortage) so hopefully they will sell the upcoming hardware at cost price, they have over a billion user accounts on Steam so possibly see hardware as a loss leader to help them keep market share.
They sold the steam deck originally at a loss (mainly due to the chip shortage) so hopefully they will sell the upcoming hardware at cost price, they have over a billion user accounts on Steam so possibly see hardware as a loss leader to help them keep market share.
Apparently posting about this in the Computer subform was incorrect (and early) - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
LTT have a video up on the Machine and Controller just now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3FkuZNSGkw
Definitely want a Controller and Frame, but the Machine is going to be expensive and I am not sure how much market penetration it will get.
LTT have a video up on the Machine and Controller just now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3FkuZNSGkw
Definitely want a Controller and Frame, but the Machine is going to be expensive and I am not sure how much market penetration it will get.
I want all x3 devices, the machine will complement my deck wich gets used extensively. x6 the power of a deck will extend it's lifespan immensley via streaming. My desktop isn't much cop anymore and it's in a way too inconvenient location to power on/off for streaming
I'm not sure that the machine will be massively expensive. the Deck wasn't when it was released which is partially why it was so popular.
One can hope anyway.
I'm not sure that the machine will be massively expensive. the Deck wasn't when it was released which is partially why it was so popular.
One can hope anyway.
Richyvrlimited said:
I want all x3 devices, the machine will complement my deck wich gets used extensively. x6 the power of a deck will extend it's lifespan immensley via streaming. My desktop isn't much cop anymore and it's in a way too inconvenient location to power on/off for streaming
I'm not sure that the machine will be massively expensive. the Deck wasn't when it was released which is partially why it was so popular.
One can hope anyway.
In the LTT video on the Machine, Valve have indicated this will be PC pricing and not console pricing, which most certainly implies a higher price. What that price is, particularly compared to a PS5 or Xbox remains to be seen.I'm not sure that the machine will be massively expensive. the Deck wasn't when it was released which is partially why it was so popular.
One can hope anyway.
Not sure with console pricing this gen, the Xbox is now approx 30% higher priced RRP with the price increase last month then when it launched five years back!
Valve likely won't release at too cheap a price just incase enterprise users start buying them to use as PC's and not use Steam at all (afaik this happened with PS2's back in the day)
Apparently the harddrive and RAM will be user upgradable, shame the GPU is mid tier.
Valve likely won't release at too cheap a price just incase enterprise users start buying them to use as PC's and not use Steam at all (afaik this happened with PS2's back in the day)
Apparently the harddrive and RAM will be user upgradable, shame the GPU is mid tier.
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