2 XBox 360s on LAN - XBox Live problems

[pcwilson]

Hi Guys

My mate has 2 XBox 360s and an XP PC on his wired home network which is connected to the Internet via a Buffalo router (doing DHCP and NAT) and NTL cable broadband; a fairly simple setup which works pretty well. However, only one of his XBoxes can connect to XBox Live at a time. The first XBox to boot up and connect works perfectly. The second to try and connect passes all tests except the XBox Live Registration test.

Does anyone have experience of connecting more that one XBox 360 to XBox Live via a routed internet connection?

Cheers
Phil

[peterpeter]

pcwilson said:

Hi Guys

My mate has 2 XBox 360s and an XP PC on his wired home network which is connected to the Internet via a Buffalo router (doing DHCP and NAT) and NTL cable broadband; a fairly simple setup which works pretty well. However, only one of his XBoxes can connect to XBox Live at a time. The first XBox to boot up and connect works perfectly. The second to try and connect passes all tests except the XBox Live Registration test.

Does anyone have experience of connecting more that one XBox 360 to XBox Live via a routed internet connection?

Cheers
Phil

didnt think it was possible..

[GI Jnr]

peterpeter said:

pcwilson said:

Hi Guys

My mate has 2 XBox 360s and an XP PC on his wired home network which is connected to the Internet via a Buffalo router (doing DHCP and NAT) and NTL cable broadband; a fairly simple setup which works pretty well. However, only one of his XBoxes can connect to XBox Live at a time. The first XBox to boot up and connect works perfectly. The second to try and connect passes all tests except the XBox Live Registration test.

Does anyone have experience of connecting more that one XBox 360 to XBox Live via a routed internet connection?

Cheers
Phil

didnt think it was possible..

It does work. I've had two 360's running off th same router. Though they were both registered at different times one at a time...

[pcwilson]

Muttley 59 said:

I think you need another live account for this to work

Is it two differant live accounts you are using ?

Edited by Muttley 59 on Thursday 11th January 22:44

Yep. Two different live accounts. Each XBox is configured with its own unique account details, and they both work indivdually. They just won't both work at the same time.

[Steve_Evil]

I think it comes down to both having the same IP address, they will both be different on the home network obviously, but the ISP will only be assigning the home one IP address, therefore there couldn't be 2 xboxes connected to live with the same IP address.

[:J:]

pcwilson said:

Hi Guys

My mate has 2 XBox 360s and an XP PC on his wired home network which is connected to the Internet via a Buffalo router (doing DHCP and NAT) and NTL cable broadband; a fairly simple setup which works pretty well. However, only one of his XBoxes can connect to XBox Live at a time. The first XBox to boot up and connect works perfectly. The second to try and connect passes all tests except the XBox Live Registration test.

Does anyone have experience of connecting more that one XBox 360 to XBox Live via a routed internet connection?

Cheers
Phil

IT CAN BE DONE.

Didn't have to do anything to get mine to work, it just did. I have 2 pc's and 2 360's plugged into my router and both 360's log in to live and can play at the same time with no problems, in fact, we even play against each other over live.

Both 360's are set to automatically pick up their settings and both work fine.

It won't be a conflicting IP address if they are set to auto as the router assigns a different IP to each bit of hardware plugged in. The router alone deals with NTL.

If the 360 gets as far as it does when running the test's, which I believe is the last check(?), then your IP, etc are all ok.

Does it work if the other 360 is switched off ?

Has the non-working 360 ever worked ?

Has he tried swapping the hard drives over to see if the working account will login on the non-working 360, and vice versa ?

If it is the Live account that will not work, get on the phone to Microsoft

Edited by :J: on Friday 12th January 09:29

[pentoman]

Yeah don't see why it shouldn't work..

Never understood how routers identify what incoming traffic is due for what machine on the local network but, since then can do it for MSN and all that type of stuff, can't see why they can't figure it out for xbox live as well.

The question is, if you host a game and the other xbox in your house joins, does it do so via your local network??

[:J:]

pentoman said:

Yeah don't see why it shouldn't work..

The question is, if you host a game and the other xbox in your house joins, does it do so via your local network??

It does work and I don't believe so as my 360's cannot see each other on the LAN.

[pcwilson]

:J: said:

Does it work if the other 360 is switched off ?

Yes it does. Both 360s work independantly, they just won't work at the same time.

:J: said:

Has the non-working 360 ever worked ?

They both work, just not at the same time. Whichever 360 is turned on first works.

:J: said:

Has he tried swapping the hard drives over to see if the working account will login on the non-working 360, and vice versa ?

Not tried that. I'll suggest it tonight.

:J: said:

If it is the Live account that will not work, get on the phone to Microsoft

It's not a Live account issue. Both 360s are configured with different Live account details and they both work, just not at the same time.

[pcwilson]

Steve_Evil said:

I think it comes down to both having the same IP address, they will both be different on the home network obviously, but the ISP will only be assigning the home one IP address, therefore there couldn't be 2 xboxes connected to live with the same IP address.

I had thought of that, but had assumed that MS would anticipate multiple 360s in the same home and planned for it.

[:J:]

pcwilson said:

Steve_Evil said:

I think it comes down to both having the same IP address, they will both be different on the home network obviously, but the ISP will only be assigning the home one IP address, therefore there couldn't be 2 xboxes connected to live with the same IP address.

I had thought of that, but had assumed that MS would anticipate multiple 360s in the same home and planned for it.

If they are plugged into 2 seperate ports on the router, then they should have 2 different IP addresses.

ISP does only supply one IP address, the router uses this address, it then splits the connection for whatever hardware is plugged into it. The router is the only thing that deals with the ISP and therefore no IP conflicts will be there.

I have 2 360's that can login to live, I am on NTL and I am running through a router. All works fine.

From what you are saying, I would start by looking at the router to make sure it doesn't have any IP conflicts. As before, the NTL IP addresses is never assigned to any hardware, just the router.

I would plug a PC into the port of the non-working 360 and see if it can get on the internet whilst the other 360 is signed in. If not, turn the other 360 off, get the pc on the internet, do an ipconfig in a cmd prompt and make a note of the address. Then do the same for the port the other 360 is plugged into and make sure they don't have the same IP on the router.

[pcwilson]

[redacted]

[:J:]

I work in IT, but by your job title, you know more than me about networks as I am just a db admin and don't really touch on that side of things (got another dept for that )

I am on a Linksys router. Just plugged it in, ran the install disk and then plugged pc's/360's in and all worked.

I know it would help more if I did, but I honestly didn't have to configure anything.

I have seen from friends that certain routers not on the compatability list work fine, but it is hit and miss.

The confusing thing is that to reach the stage of signing into Xbox Live, it has to have already said the IP address etc. is ok, IIRC. That's what's confusing me.

I would say to post on xbox.com forums, but they are the hunting ground of immature teenagers and not the best place to be for serious answers.

If it were myself, I would call the Xbox help line. From all you have said though, the router would be the main culprit in my eyes.

Edited by :J: on Friday 12th January 16:27

[djm101]

post your question over at the forums of oxm.co.uk they're not a bunch of kids so will probably know the answer.

[PJ S]

Don't have 2 360's, but those Linksys routers are a complete doddle to setup and run.
Very Macish in that they are practically plug and play with the setup wizard in the PC's drive.
It'd be worth checking out - I got the wee lad's from Play for £30 delivered.
Don't know much about Buffalo - but I did know I wasn't touching Belkin with a bargepole.

[pcwilson]

Hi Guys

Thanks for all the help. I'll try posting on oxm.co.uk.

Cheers again
Phil