Crysis...wow..which laptop?
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This game looks more amazing each time a new trailer emerges.
www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18589&type=wmv
try d/l the HD demo. the graphics/physics are stonkingly good.
But as desktops are too anti-social, I need to get a laptop powerful enough to run it smoothly.
Any recommendations?
www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18589&type=wmv
try d/l the HD demo. the graphics/physics are stonkingly good.
But as desktops are too anti-social, I need to get a laptop powerful enough to run it smoothly.
Any recommendations?
peterpeter said:
This game looks more amazing each time a new trailer emerges.
www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18589&type=wmv
try d/l the HD demo. the graphics/physics are stonkingly good.
But as desktops are too anti-social, I need to get a laptop powerful enough to run it smoothly.
Any recommendations?
www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18589&type=wmv
try d/l the HD demo. the graphics/physics are stonkingly good.
But as desktops are too anti-social, I need to get a laptop powerful enough to run it smoothly.
Any recommendations?
As far as I know, Crysis is one of the first Dx10 games. To run it smoothly with all the new effects will require a seriously hi spec machine with a Dx10 graphics card. Just did a google of 'laptop dx10' & got this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showt
Where someone basically says 'not til July' or maybe longer.
In the meantime you can probably play Crysis on a Dx9 machine smoothly but with all the settings turned down & many of the effects missing.
As far as I know, even with desktop machines, Dx10 cards are only just coming out at the moment.
Edited by big_treacle on Saturday 14th April 10:54
Edited by big_treacle on Saturday 14th April 10:55
Peter, have you thought about building a small form factor PC in a 'Media Centre' style case to put next to your TV equipment, and run the games from that onto your HDTV?
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
chris watton said:
Peter, have you thought about building a small form factor PC in a 'Media Centre' style case to put next to your TV equipment, and run the games from that onto your HDTV?
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
..i have been thinking along those lines too.
But I really would prefer to have a 1080p telly. My 1080i pio is a great set, but Im not looking to change it yet.
Can you get a small media box type pc that is powerful enough to run crysis tho??
plus, wont the fan noise be a killer.?
peterpeter said:
chris watton said:
Peter, have you thought about building a small form factor PC in a 'Media Centre' style case to put next to your TV equipment, and run the games from that onto your HDTV?
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
..i have been thinking along those lines too.
But I really would prefer to have a 1080p telly. My 1080i pio is a great set, but Im not looking to change it yet.
Can you get a small media box type pc that is powerful enough to run crysis tho??
plus, wont the fan noise be a killer.?
I have been looking at cases like this;
www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=275290
Apparently, I can fit my ATX Asus mobo, a few hard drives and a huge GPU in it - and it wouldn't look too out of place.
There are some really good almost silent fans around now, I have them in my main PC and it's very quiet - can't even hear it when typing!
LukeBird said:
big_treacle said:
As far as I know, even with desktop machines, Dx10 cards are only just coming out at the moment.
I believe the only ones currently are the GeForce 8series cards..
I'm sure ATi don't have anything DX10 compatible at the moment...
I belive the most powerful laptop GFx module you can get is a 7950 Ultra, which is DX9... an utterly stonking DX9 part but still. The other thing to keep in mind is that even through it's a laptop, it'll still get hot enough to burn you if you use it on your lap for extended gaming (assuming you can sit in a position that doesn't cover an air intake). So you're still going to be sat at a desk some of the time. This is the voice of experience btw. I'm typing this on a Dell XPS M1710 gaming laptop
Personally if you want a gaming laptop I would set your budget at about £2,000 and wait until after the mobile 8000 series arrives.
As to the PC-> HDTV thing don't know enough about it to comment fully, but 420, 720, 1080 is the height yes? What's 1900x1200 none interlaced @ 60Hz in 'HD' terms as that's what most high end laptop panels are doing.
ThePassenger said:
LukeBird said:
big_treacle said:
As far as I know, even with desktop machines, Dx10 cards are only just coming out at the moment.
I believe the only ones currently are the GeForce 8series cards..
I'm sure ATi don't have anything DX10 compatible at the moment...
I belive the most powerful laptop GFx module you can get is a 7950 Ultra, which is DX9... an utterly stonking DX9 part but still. The other thing to keep in mind is that even through it's a laptop, it'll still get hot enough to burn you if you use it on your lap for extended gaming (assuming you can sit in a position that doesn't cover an air intake). So you're still going to be sat at a desk some of the time. This is the voice of experience btw. I'm typing this on a Dell XPS M1710 gaming laptop
Personally if you want a gaming laptop I would set your budget at about £2,000 and wait until after the mobile 8000 series arrives.
As to the PC-> HDTV thing don't know enough about it to comment fully, but 420, 720, 1080 is the height yes? What's 1900x1200 none interlaced @ 60Hz in 'HD' terms as that's what most high end laptop panels are doing.
Just out of curiosity, what graphics card is your laptop running?
Scraggles said:
got some poorly performing shares from company in isa after fraud dropped the share price, hope to make monye back by autumn in time to have dx10 system made, maybe use vista by then as well. cant see the point in upgrading b4 dx10 tbh
TBH. I'd keep your investments growing well in to next year. Currently DX10 games are none existent (ok ok Flight Sim X does DX10) and it will take a while for developers to not only transition to DX10 but also to not support DX9.
Considering the lack of uptake on Vista, more than one pundit has suggested DX10 will be appearing on XP in some form.
thanks for all the useful tips chaps.
So, it looks like there is not much point getting a laptop for crysis until..
dx10 laptop cards...the 8000 range are out...in autumn?
If crysis does come out early tho, presumably the hot go7500 card should run it fairly well. so I could get a machine with the highest end 7000 card available..
but...laptop grafix cards are not easily upgradable ...or am i wrong?
So, it looks like there is not much point getting a laptop for crysis until..
dx10 laptop cards...the 8000 range are out...in autumn?
If crysis does come out early tho, presumably the hot go7500 card should run it fairly well. so I could get a machine with the highest end 7000 card available..
but...laptop grafix cards are not easily upgradable ...or am i wrong?
ThePassenger said:
Scraggles said:
got some poorly performing shares from company in isa after fraud dropped the share price, hope to make monye back by autumn in time to have dx10 system made, maybe use vista by then as well. cant see the point in upgrading b4 dx10 tbh
TBH. I'd keep your investments growing well in to next year. Currently DX10 games are none existent (ok ok Flight Sim X does DX10) and it will take a while for developers to not only transition to DX10 but also to not support DX9.
Considering the lack of uptake on Vista, more than one pundit has suggested DX10 will be appearing on XP in some form.
I think that maybe most users of XP now have it working very well and it does everything they need it to do, whilst the Vista versions costs the price of some laptops - Microscoft (as the kids call them) relly know how to shaft the already heavily tax burdened UK public. (Although OEM versions are more realistically priced)
peterpeter said:
but...laptop grafix cards are not easily upgradable ...or am i wrong?
Short answer: No they're not upgradable.
chris watton said:
I think that maybe most users of XP now have it working very well and it does everything they need it to do, whilst the Vista versions costs the price of some laptops - Microscoft (as the kids call them) relly know how to shaft the already heavily tax burdened UK public. (Although OEM versions are more realistically priced)
To be honest I don't know much about Vista and what I have heard is conflicting (Business has no DX10, Ultimate has everything bar Domain network func and then reverse it). But when Goldman-Sanchez take Microsoft off their list of must have portfolio picks and CEO's start making noises about overly aggressive profit forcasts.... well, they aren't going to go bust but this is going to hurt like crazy.
But £400 for the full flavour OS; never in a million years will I pay that. Especially when my Ubuntu 7.04 system is a) free and b) uses less than 3Gb of disk space for EVERYTHING including OpenOffice 2.2... how an OS can command 15Gb of space I will never know.
peterpeter said:
[quote=chris watton]
Can you get a small media box type pc that is powerful enough to run crysis tho??
plus, wont the fan noise be a killer.?
Can you get a small media box type pc that is powerful enough to run crysis tho??
plus, wont the fan noise be a killer.?
If money isn't an issue and SFF is a goer I'd look at waiting til a DX10 version of this came out
www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/04/12/shuttle_debuts_sdxi_sff_pc/
chris watton said:
peterpeter said:
chris watton said:
Peter, have you thought about building a small form factor PC in a 'Media Centre' style case to put next to your TV equipment, and run the games from that onto your HDTV?
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
I am about to do this, it's quite a compelling solution, I have my whole CD collection on hard drive, plus my fave (and paid for) DVDs, and of course, the great PC games. My PC is already hooked up to the TV and home theater amp, and its great - but I want a better solution which eliminates the need for the wire trail from PC to TV - hence a smaller case next to the TV. Imagine how great Crysis will look on a 50" HDTV!
..i have been thinking along those lines too.
But I really would prefer to have a 1080p telly. My 1080i pio is a great set, but Im not looking to change it yet.
Can you get a small media box type pc that is powerful enough to run crysis tho??
plus, wont the fan noise be a killer.?
I have been looking at cases like this;
www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=275290
Apparently, I can fit my ATX Asus mobo, a few hard drives and a huge GPU in it - and it wouldn't look too out of place.
There are some really good almost silent fans around now, I have them in my main PC and it's very quiet - can't even hear it when typing!
DONT. GET. A. SILVERSTONE.
had one jsut like that and after 18 months finally got rid of it. Comical design flaws such as not being able to fit a graphics card and harddrive in the positoins Silverstone designed them to go, having to bend teh PSU cables to silly angles to fit, the fact it can only fit ONE 8cm fan (which is pathetic, a decent spec machine needs 2x12cm wiht throughflow to cool properly) oh god it went on and on...
(looked great though)
ThePassenger said:
LukeBird said:
Just out of curiosity, what graphics card is your laptop running?
Nvidia GeForce Go 7500 GS 256Mb RAM.
It's a stonk of a card, I've yet to see it drop a frame in pretty much anything.
Might have to consider something like that then, I've got a 6800GS 256mb and TDU is the first thing I've been unable to run at 1280*1024..
Anyhow with regards to the Vista debate, has it really undersold that badly?
I don't have it and can see no real reason to go from XP pro....
Edited by LukeBird on Sunday 15th April 17:11
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