40GB PS3

[matc]

Just had a mail to say the 40GB PS3 is being relesed in a few days for £299. Seems like reasonable value for money now.

Mat

[PJ S]

Not to mention severely hampered for those who've a large PS2 catalogue of games still wanting to be played!
Sony - give on one hand, take with the other.

[Pierscoe1]

the fully equipped 60Gb version has also had a substantial price cut too though..

down £75 to £350 (inc two 1st party games, and one wireless controller)..

[TheLearner]

Erm... I thought the UK model didn't have the PS2 hardware emulation anyway? Or am I missing something between the 60Gb and 40Gb?

[Mr_Yogi]

There are 2 key components in the PS2, the Emotion Engine(EE) and the Graphics Sythesiser (GS).

The Original US PS3's had a single chip containing both of these parts so was therefore nearly 100% backwards compatable with the PS2.

The 60GB EU PS3 only has the GS with the Cell processor emulating the EE in software.

This new 40GB PS3 has neither chips so unless Sony produce a 100% software emulation for the PS3 in the future there is no way the 40GB PS3 can play PS2 games.

and relax.

[johnph]

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-72579.aspx

Rumours of a 160Gb version to take the top end of the market.

[RobDickinson]

Mr_Yogi said:

This new 40GB PS3 has neither chips so unless Sony produce a 100% software emulation for the PS3 in the future there is no way the 40GB PS3 can play PS2 games.

and relax.

Not going to happen, the graphics chip in the PS2 has too much internal bandwidth to emulate, the PS3 in total, every bus, cannot get close (due to the embeded memory).

At least they've made this one distinct on spec, changing the HDD size on a console that you can easily change the HDD yourself seems mad.

[Silent1]

Just get a chipped PS2 as well, like i have, you wont have the compatibility issues that the PS3 has and you can copy your games and keep the originals in their box for safe keeping. You can chip them yourselves, they just clip over the processor.

As a bonus if you get the network adapter you can bung a HDD into the PS2 and use it as a game store / massive memory card

[scorp]

RobDickinson said:

Not going to happen, the graphics chip in the PS2 has too much internal bandwidth to emulate, the PS3 in total, every bus, cannot get close (due to the embeded memory).

The RSX is a lot faster than the GS in terms of fill rate, and in terms of capability, every graphics primitive and rendering mode can easily be emulated; i am very familiar with this chipset.

One of the biggest failures of PC based emulators (my co-worker has part written a very well known one) is the IO cpu emulation (that PS1 cpu they crammed in there), the EE and certainly the GS is considered some of the most reliable, documented and predictable parts of the PS2.

Back to topic (or near enough): Personally i don't see what the big fuss is, in almost all instances, people who own several ps2 games, will own a ps2 too, so its not like lots of ps3 owners have a pile of ps2 games they absolutely cannot take advantage of. My 360 can't play a lot of the xbox games (well i imagine this to be the case, based on internet opinion) - but that doesnt bother me in the slightest, since i *shock horror* still own an xbox.

Edited by scorp on Monday 8th October 16:15