Get 5 free HD-DVDs with the Xbox HDDVD player
Get 5 free HD-DVDs with the Xbox HDDVD player
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Mattt

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16,664 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/hd-dvd/default.htm

Presumably as Blu-ray is winning - but a nice offer anyway.

scooby wrx sti

1,180 posts

225 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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nope hd-dvd is winning, and in a big way too.

apparantly across europe 7 out of 10 next gen dvd player's sold are hd-dvd. They also buy more films too on average 10 films per player has for blu-ray its only 3. (and yes ps3 is included in blu-ray player sales)

that offer has been on for a while it's on every hd-dvd player not just xbox
probably explains why the film per player ratio is high though.

Thudd

3,100 posts

235 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Er, you *have* heard about all the studios withdrawing support for hd-dvd in favour of blu-ray?

scooby wrx sti

1,180 posts

225 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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would not surprise me in the least, it is the better format after all.

hd-dvd players are very cheep nowadays just looked on amazon toshiba £179 with 7 free dvd's . Which probably explains the number sold. I think the cheepest blu-ray player is still the ps3. which is £100 more and no free dvd's, given a choice if all you needed was a next gen dvd player people will buy the tosh

giving so many disc's away with a player reminds me of when the laserdisc market colasped i wonder if history is repeating itself

Edited by scooby wrx sti on Sunday 13th January 00:00

bogie

17,020 posts

300 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Thudd said:
Er, you *have* heard about all the studios withdrawing support for hd-dvd in favour of blu-ray?
you mean eerrr... 1 studio ?

Funk

27,553 posts

237 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Did they learn NOTHING from the Betamax/VHS saga?

It's the consumer who loses ultimately as formats come and go. Besides, can anyone REALLY tell the difference between a DVD and its HD or Bluray equivalent? I mean, in significant terms?

off_again

13,917 posts

262 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Paramount and rumoured to be making the switch from HD-DVD both formats

HBO have gone Bluray exclusive.
Warner Bros have gone Bluray exclusive
Digital Playground has gone Bluray (biggest porn seller)
New Line has gone Bluray exclusive

Samsung, Sharp and Marantz have all launched varying Bluray players

Its all pretty damning for the HD-DVD people. Basically it leaves Microsoft with the XBox360 and Toshiba left in the 'HD-DVD only' group. Even the rumours are surfacing that Microsoft have looked at using Bluray in the future. I am not suggesting that HD-DVD is dead, but it does seem to the casual outsider that the vultures are circling.

Microsoft will have a problem longer term with the X360 though. They need to find a way of providing mass media to the console. Playstation has the Bluray player so can really crank up the amount of data on the disk. As standard the X360 has only a DVD. It should be fine for the moment, but as the massive content games start coming out, its going to be harder and harder. So they need to get people to do something - either buy a player or something else.

Personally I think something else is probably going to win - download the content when you need it, but lets see. I would imagine that Microsoft are worrying that they might have backed the wrong technology.

Edited to add link:

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/dvdpvr/0,39030701,49294927...

Journalistic license or a vision of the future? Hard to say, but have seen comments like this in several places....

Edited by off_again on Sunday 13th January 08:35

:J:

2,593 posts

253 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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bogie said:
Thudd said:
Er, you *have* heard about all the studios withdrawing support for hd-dvd in favour of blu-ray?
you mean eerrr... 1 studio ?
Yeah, the one studio that when it announced it was going Blu Ray only, blew HD out of the water and pretty much gave Blu Ray the win frown

Once it made it's announcement, all HD DVD promo work for the weekend was cancelled for the show !!

Irrespective of peoples opinions, if the people behind HD DVD themselves have given up, then that says it all really frown

Thudd

3,100 posts

235 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Now, i'm a 360 owner, and I wanted HD-DVD to win, but that looks pretty conclusive.
I've even considered a switch to PS3 to get Blu Ray...

A1GOY

1,521 posts

230 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Wow, that offer does smack of desperation...

:J:

2,593 posts

253 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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A1GOY said:
Wow, that offer does smack of desperation...
The 5 free HD DVD thing has been around for weeks (maybe even reaching months), it's nothing new and has not come off the back of Warners announcement.

It was there big 'let's try and win the battle' push, clearly didn't work though smile

Oakey

27,977 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Funk said:
Did they learn NOTHING from the Betamax/VHS saga?

It's the consumer who loses ultimately as formats come and go. Besides, can anyone REALLY tell the difference between a DVD and its HD or Bluray equivalent? I mean, in significant terms?
Erm, yes.

http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/

Edited by Oakey on Sunday 13th January 16:47

Thudd

3,100 posts

235 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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I think it depends upon whether or not you have your glasses on wink

Looks a lot different on there, but I think you get used to the improved quality pretty quickly.



Despite the above, and despite being resolutely "meh" about seeing Casino Royale in 1080p on a mate's 40+" Sony LCD off a PS3, i've got the HD/BD itch, and i've got it bad...

Polarbert

17,936 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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I very nearly bought an X360 HD player but I'm glad I held off. I think I'd buy a Bluray now. Or wait to see if Microsoft make one for the X360.

Thudd

3,100 posts

235 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Same here, on both counts.

Not sure i'd get a 360 drive at all now tho - the sound off them is not properly HD, the fan is noisy, and the PS3 makes a better general media player from what i've heard.

Funk

27,553 posts

237 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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Oakey said:
Funk said:
Did they learn NOTHING from the Betamax/VHS saga?

It's the consumer who loses ultimately as formats come and go. Besides, can anyone REALLY tell the difference between a DVD and its HD or Bluray equivalent? I mean, in significant terms?
Erm, yes.

http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/

Edited by Oakey on Sunday 13th January 16:47
That's fairly impressive. Now I'll do what everyone else should do and wait before sticking my feet in a format camp.. smile

PJ S

10,842 posts

255 months

Monday 14th January 2008
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Thudd said:
I've even considered a switch to PS3 to get Blu Ray...
Are you looking for a slap?
You'll get a BRD player soon enough for the right amount of money - so don't do something daft in the meantime.

I always did have a sneaky suspicion BR would eventually win - Sony wouldn't let this be the 3rd time they "lost" a formats war (Betamax/Attrac - VHS/AAC|MP3), plus the regional coding restrictions being absent on HD-DVD, and greater capacity (of only so much worth though).

Thudd

3,100 posts

235 months

Monday 14th January 2008
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PJ S said:
Thudd said:
I've even considered a switch to PS3 to get Blu Ray...
Are you looking for a slap?
You'll get a BRD player soon enough for the right amount of money - so don't do something daft in the meantime.

I always did have a sneaky suspicion BR would eventually win - Sony wouldn't let this be the 3rd time they "lost" a formats war (Betamax/Attrac - VHS/AAC|MP3), plus the regional coding restrictions being absent on HD-DVD, and greater capacity (of only so much worth though).
Put 2 boxes under the telly? With a PS3 I can just wash, and go.

Frederick

5,879 posts

248 months

Monday 14th January 2008
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I was going to go for the HD-DVD player for the 360, but two things put me off...

1: HD-DVD is pretty much dead now...
2: The 360 would only play 1080p via HDMI, so if you have an old 360 without the HDMI port (as I do), you'll either need to have a TV that is capable of running 720p/1080p through VGA, or buy a new 360. The xbox will output 1080p over component, but the HD-DVD specs prevent it being done for HD-DVD content.

Looks like I'll end up going to Blu Ray via the PS3, but only when GT5 comes out...