Forza 3 with a XB360 pad how do you cope
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I got a copy of Forza 3 after being a GT fan for over a decade.
Unfortunaty I am used to using the pad on a Playstation where the buttons (X, Square, triangle etc) are touch sensitive so I can control braking power / acceleration by varying the pressure but after trying Forza 3 (I set the controls to the same layout as my PS2) I was disappointed to find that the (X, A, B, Y) buttons are not touch sensitive so braking is either on or off.
I set acceleration and braking control back to the triggers but after 11 years of driving with one set of controls on a playstation it felt totally unnatural to do this, the equivalent of getting into my normal car and someone switching all the pedals around.
So can anyone please recommend a fully touch sensitive pad for the XB360 (if there is such a thing) or should I just start using a steering wheel?
Unfortunaty I am used to using the pad on a Playstation where the buttons (X, Square, triangle etc) are touch sensitive so I can control braking power / acceleration by varying the pressure but after trying Forza 3 (I set the controls to the same layout as my PS2) I was disappointed to find that the (X, A, B, Y) buttons are not touch sensitive so braking is either on or off.
I set acceleration and braking control back to the triggers but after 11 years of driving with one set of controls on a playstation it felt totally unnatural to do this, the equivalent of getting into my normal car and someone switching all the pedals around.
So can anyone please recommend a fully touch sensitive pad for the XB360 (if there is such a thing) or should I just start using a steering wheel?
personally I use the analog triggers; right trigger to accelerate, left trigger to brake.
I use a G25 for iRacing/GTR/rFactor/etc on the PC, but for GT5P on PS3 and FM3 on 360 the analog triggers are best for me
give it a try - back in the PS2 GT3 days I used buttons for accelerator/brake...it didn't take long to be faster using the triggers.
I use a G25 for iRacing/GTR/rFactor/etc on the PC, but for GT5P on PS3 and FM3 on 360 the analog triggers are best for me
give it a try - back in the PS2 GT3 days I used buttons for accelerator/brake...it didn't take long to be faster using the triggers.
I have the xbox controller settings the same as when i had a PS2 i.e. the four buttons being accelerate, brake, handbrake etc and the triggers for changing up/down. Does make accelerating with a powerful car and TC, stability control off, a bit of a task though. Tapping the accelerator or shifting up coming out of a corner is the only real way of doing a quick lap with these controller settings. I usually have ABS on all the time so dont have to worry about locking up either. Just can't get used to the default controller settings!
Thanks shivars, I think I need to persist or get a wheel, it's a fantastic looking game.
My problem is that I can walk 5 minute laps around the 'ring using my PS2 pad and I got frustrated with the triggers on the 360 after 5 minutes of hitting walls, so I'm not the most patient person, I started craving my ps2 pad after a couple of hours!
My problem is that I can walk 5 minute laps around the 'ring using my PS2 pad and I got frustrated with the triggers on the 360 after 5 minutes of hitting walls, so I'm not the most patient person, I started craving my ps2 pad after a couple of hours!
In this day and age, buttons have had their day in racing games.
Triggers offer the next best thing to the fine control of pedals. Try holding half throttle round a bend with a button.
It wont take you long to get used to triggers.
But on the other hand if you dont have much patience, you wont get particularly good at anything, and you should just wait for GT5.
Triggers offer the next best thing to the fine control of pedals. Try holding half throttle round a bend with a button.
It wont take you long to get used to triggers.
But on the other hand if you dont have much patience, you wont get particularly good at anything, and you should just wait for GT5.
the problem with using one stick for acceleration and braking is that you can't do both at the same time.
may sound silly at first, but its very very handy for tucking the nose in by dabbing the brake with partial throttle still applied (so as not to unbalance the car).
this is a good RL technique too...
may sound silly at first, but its very very handy for tucking the nose in by dabbing the brake with partial throttle still applied (so as not to unbalance the car).
this is a good RL technique too...
I think you are right about them having their day but I assure you mr Jackal I am very good at GT4 
despite my lack of patience with these controls.
I have developed enough control over my PS2 buttons to hold the revs on the button they are quite precise I find, in-fact at the start of a race I hold the revs at whatever rev range I have found most effective to limit wheel-spin off the line this is basicly replicating a launch start.
I also control braking in the same way, on my replays you will always see quarter and half pressure braking and throttle on the control HUD. Like others I find this is especially useful on cars with high power:weight where feathered throttle makes the most impact hence my sheer frustration with the Xbox controls, they simply havent worked for me so far, I'm quite a set about my ways kind of guy but I shall persist.
despite my lack of patience with these controls. I have developed enough control over my PS2 buttons to hold the revs on the button they are quite precise I find, in-fact at the start of a race I hold the revs at whatever rev range I have found most effective to limit wheel-spin off the line this is basicly replicating a launch start.
I also control braking in the same way, on my replays you will always see quarter and half pressure braking and throttle on the control HUD. Like others I find this is especially useful on cars with high power:weight where feathered throttle makes the most impact hence my sheer frustration with the Xbox controls, they simply havent worked for me so far, I'm quite a set about my ways kind of guy but I shall persist.
I played way more Gran Turismo than is really healthy and I too found the switch difficult - I found the best way really was not to try and jump in at the deep end but to almost relearn from scratch. Took me a fair few hours play but managed it in the end - wonder what it would be like to try GT controls again now!
Triggers are the main reason I prefer 360 pads, that and the thumbsticks ain't opposite!
So much more control over throttle and braking, i can't see how you'd feather the throttle on exit without t/c and how you'd brake into corners without ABS using buttons...
And how would you hold an amazing drift?!
So much more control over throttle and braking, i can't see how you'd feather the throttle on exit without t/c and how you'd brake into corners without ABS using buttons...
And how would you hold an amazing drift?!
The_Jackal said:
In this day and age, buttons have had their day in racing games.
Triggers offer the next best thing to the fine control of pedals. Try holding half throttle round a bend with a button.
It wont take you long to get used to triggers.
But on the other hand if you dont have much patience, you wont get particularly good at anything, and you should just wait for GT5.
"just wait for GT5" Triggers offer the next best thing to the fine control of pedals. Try holding half throttle round a bend with a button.
It wont take you long to get used to triggers.
But on the other hand if you dont have much patience, you wont get particularly good at anything, and you should just wait for GT5.
very good
Fair play to some of you guy's changing over quickly. All I can say is that GT4 has lived in the PS2 since I bought it new, it is pretty much the only game I play on it now.
To me it doesnt so much feel like using the accelerator and brake in my car (I've been driving nearly 20 years IRL) it feels more like I've got into my own car and found that now I have to pull my handbrake to accelerate, wind my window down to brake and turn the heater on to change gear!
To me it doesnt so much feel like using the accelerator and brake in my car (I've been driving nearly 20 years IRL) it feels more like I've got into my own car and found that now I have to pull my handbrake to accelerate, wind my window down to brake and turn the heater on to change gear!
bigjimmy said:
I find it hard to believe there any players who would drive in GT3-4 using the X and Square buttons on a PS2 pad. Accelerate and brake can be done much more easily with the R3 analogue stick.
Agreed any racing game I play on the 360,PS3 or PC I use the above for. You have far more control over the input and the ability to hold it.Gassing Station | Video Games | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff