Black Ops - Suitable for kids?
Black Ops - Suitable for kids?
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Cheeky Jim

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1,276 posts

309 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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I am a PS3 gamer...not the shoot em ups, more Gran Turismo etc... I've never played any of the CoD games etc.

A friend lets his kids play shooting games like Medal of Honour and has just bought Black Ops.... his kids will be playing it... as he says you can turn the blood & guts off and its not that bad...... The kids are 8 and 7.

I also have 2 boys the same age and there is NO way I would want them playing this type of game... they are more than happy with Lego Harry Potter and Ratchet & Clank...games that have some comedy elements, some shooting I guess - but not graphic, but games that do ask them to think through problems to reach different levels and I don't see the need for them to be killing each other in graphic detail....even if it is 'fun' etc....


Am I being a prude or is it really not suitable for kids?


eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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You may be a prude but I feel the same. I don't have kids but if I did I certainly wouldn't encourage them to play games like that

Jasandjules

72,584 posts

258 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Cheeky Jim said:
Am I being a prude or is it really not suitable for kids?
Well, is it on-line or the single player only? I don't know if the single player has much swearing in it (I seem to think that COD did have a fair amount), so perhaps not suitable for kids on that basis alone.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

223 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Well, is it on-line or the single player only? I don't know if the single player has much swearing in it (I seem to think that COD did have a fair amount), so perhaps not suitable for kids on that basis alone.
It has quite a bit of swearing, violence etc IIRC.


VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Black Ops has been given an 18 certificate - so I'd say it's definitely not suitable for young kids.

- Paul -

225 posts

204 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Mature 17+

Blood and Gore
Intense Violence
Strong Language

What d'ya reckon!....

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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I would say absolutely not for kids that age. At 14 or so you're getting more reasonable, but online mode obviously exposes everybody to a torrent of C-worded abuse if you're unlucky with who you end up playing.

The single-player probably has enough disturbing stuff in it for me to say I wouldn't want kids of mine under 14 playing it.

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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They have age ratings for a reason.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

223 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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McSam said:
I would say absolutely not for kids that age. At 14 or so you're getting more reasonable, but online mode obviously exposes everybody to a torrent of C-worded abuse if you're unlucky with who you end up playing.

The single-player probably has enough disturbing stuff in it for me to say I wouldn't want kids of mine under 14 playing it.
Can't you turn voice chat off completely though?

So you don't have to hear the sodding Americans sprouting loads of st..



S3_Graham

12,835 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Gun said:
They have age ratings for a reason.
this, while i hated it when i was 13-14 and my mum wouldnt let me have Goldeneye, in retrospect.. she has no idea what the game is other than its been rated 15.

I'd do the exact same thing were i to have kids.

130R

7,080 posts

235 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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I don't care what other people let their kids play, but on behalf of the rest of the online community please, please don't get them a headset. If I have to listen to one more whiny little 12yr old ...

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Skylinecrazy said:
an't you turn voice chat off completely though?

So you don't have to hear the sodding Americans sprouting loads of st..
Not sure, actually, I've never tried but I know you could on the PC version of MW1.

Still rather not see some people's four-letter clan tags, mind..

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Would you like your boys being told to
" hit R1 to smash the glass"
Then after the heroe forces the glass into someone's mouth:
"hit R2 to punch"
And watch the guy being 'questioned' spit blood and glass on the floor?

It's 18 for a reason, and that's not just for th online swearathon.

sidaorb

5,595 posts

235 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Simple question to ask......'Would you let your 7 year old watch porn?'

The rating is there because it is so violent, not only does it risk causing harm to the children, but ultimately to the rest of us adult gamers, because sooner or later something will happen involving a child, there will then be even greater crys to ban these games as being too violent.

The 'think of the children' brigade will demand top shelf type attitude to gaming.

Cheeky Jim

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1,276 posts

309 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Hey guys, I'm in agreement with all of you!

The 'smash the glass in his mouth' has simply re-enforced my belief that I really don't want my kids subjected to it if I can help it.

Which does make me wonder why my pal, who is entirely sensible and reasonable in most things doesn't see the damage it is potentially causing....

sidaorb

5,595 posts

235 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Cheeky Jim said:
Which does make me wonder why my pal, who is entirely sensible and reasonable in most things doesn't see the damage it is potentially causing....
He may not even be aware of that scene, MW2 had the (in)famous airport scene, which gave you a warning and the chance to skip the whole bit if you were easily offended (if after the 18cert).

The other scene in single player of BOps is when you have the shotgun with exploding rounds, lots of body parts flying off.

Online is a different matter, probably less graphic in animation but a whole world worse with online 'chat', I actually think the worse offenders for vulgar language are kids who try to act the big 'I am' and particularly the american kids who all seem to think is acceptable to threaten various sexual acts to everyones mother!?!

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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sidaorb said:
Online is a different matter, probably less graphic in animation but a whole world worse with online 'chat', I actually think the worse offenders for vulgar language are kids who try to act the big 'I am' and particularly the american kids who all seem to think is acceptable to threaten various sexual acts to everyones mother!?!
Absolutely.

There's no way I would say the Single Player is suitable for kids, the online is a completely different game. Rude clan tags and trash talk by American kids can be a real nightmare. I mute people all of the time, they talk such utter crap! rolleyes

FellowPazzini

4,483 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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LukeBird said:
sidaorb said:
Online is a different matter, probably less graphic in animation but a whole world worse with online 'chat', I actually think the worse offenders for vulgar language are kids who try to act the big 'I am' and particularly the american kids who all seem to think is acceptable to threaten various sexual acts to everyones mother!?!
Absolutely.

There's no way I would say the Single Player is suitable for kids, the online is a completely different game. Rude clan tags and trash talk by American kids can be a real nightmare. I mute people all of the time, they talk such utter crap! rolleyes
Yep, I certainly agree both of you there. There's also another scene in the single player (if I remember correctly) were you've got to slash someone's throat from behind, along wiht he sound effects it not very pleasant for kids.

A similar thread was up sometime ago about the letting kids play CoD games which was interesting. Someone had said on there that you know your kids & you know wether or not your kids are mature enough to handle things like this. Personally I think the 18 rating is waay too high, maybe a 15/16 would be more suitable.

Jasandjules

72,584 posts

258 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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To add a little bit of balance, when I was 12-13 my parents would let me watch Commando/Aliens etc and I haven't killed anyone yet...... Let's face it, playground language can be far worse. But below 12, I'd say it's not suitable.

Haytch

183 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Been playing grand theft auto from the age of about 10, so did many people I know. As long as you know right from wrong, real life from game, why shouldn't children be allowed to play a GAME.

Don't let them watch TV, go to the park or even breathe... they may choke. wink

Just messing about with that last bit, but seriously, I don't see a problem as long as they are taught what's right and hard wrong. It's just fun.

To the people who say there are age ratings for a reason. Do you seriously feel that you were not mature enough to watch a film rated 18, aged 17, but you could be let loose in a potentially 150mph + machine?