Help me get the best out of my 1000d canon
Help me get the best out of my 1000d canon
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paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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Right, bought my first camera a while back, Canon 1000D Eos DSLR, got used to snapping now, love taking pictures and love following the Random photos thread on the forum, my next step is' as i know there are alot of amazing Photographers on here is' can some please post up a great custom setting too use to get the most out of the camera for the following shots.

Portrait
landscape
close up
sport

im still using the 18-55m Lens that came with the camera as it does me for now!

also will be great to see the comparison between the same style shots with custom settings and pre loaded settings smile

GetCarter

31,243 posts

308 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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As a general rule, you need narrow depth of field (aperture with a low number, or a fast shutter speed) for portraits, and a deep depth of field (aperture with a higher number, or a slower shutter speed) for landscapes.

This is the first thing to get sorted when you come out of point and shoot mode

Sod all depth



Lots of depth



Edited to add more relevant first pic

Edited by GetCarter on Saturday 16th July 10:29

paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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WOW especially the second picture, been quite new to this it takes alittle concentration to understand

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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paul26982 said:
can some please post up a great custom setting too use to get the most out of the camera for the following shots.

Portrait
landscape
close up
sport
Those sound suspiciously like 'modes' (little icons on a dial) - or do you mean them as general descriptions?

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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A good place to start would be to buy this, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Exposure-3rd... which is superb.

Then go and take photos! Take photos of anything you find interesting, always have the camera in the car, if you see a nice sunset or something get out and have a go.

Also have a look on flickr, you can search by keyword.

Click on the title of this shot below and it will take you to the image on flickr. Now click the camera link at the top right where it says "This photo was taken on June 26, 2011 in Raithwaite, England, GB, using a Canon EOS-1DS. " This will display the exif data which shows how the shot was taken, I find it invaluable, I look at shots I like from other photographers and then have a look how they did it.


Like Pebbles On The Beach by mark_mullen, on Flickr

In this case the most important information is this:

Exposure 0.05 sec (1/20)
Aperture f/22.0
Focal Length 24 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE

This gives you an idea how the shot was taken.




Comacchio

1,544 posts

210 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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Heres a picture that helped me get to grips with some of the concepts when I got my dSLR:



It's not the greatest, but its an ok start I felt. The gurus (like Steve already has) will be along soon i bet!

paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Those sound suspiciously like 'modes' (little icons on a dial) - or do you mean them as general descriptions?
they are the modes, and the ones ive been using, but wondered if some one could post a custom setting to use instead of these modes, i mean like

1 custom setting too use to take close up, another to use for a landscape shot and so on

paul26982

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247 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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markmullen said:
A good place to start would be to buy this, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Exposure-3rd... which is superb.

Then go and take photos! Take photos of anything you find interesting, always have the camera in the car, if you see a nice sunset or something get out and have a go.

Also have a look on flickr, you can search by keyword.

Click on the title of this shot below and it will take you to the image on flickr. Now click the camera link at the top right where it says "This photo was taken on June 26, 2011 in Raithwaite, England, GB, using a Canon EOS-1DS. " This will display the exif data which shows how the shot was taken, I find it invaluable, I look at shots I like from other photographers and then have a look how they did it.


Like Pebbles On The Beach by mark_mullen, on Flickr

In this case the most important information is this:

Exposure 0.05 sec (1/20)
Aperture f/22.0
Focal Length 24 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE

This gives you an idea how the shot was taken.
didnt know that, wow great start

paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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Comacchio said:
Heres a picture that helped me get to grips with some of the concepts when I got my dSLR:



It's not the greatest, but its an ok start I felt. The gurus (like Steve already has) will be along soon i bet!
saved smile

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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paul26982 said:
Simpo Two said:
Those sound suspiciously like 'modes' (little icons on a dial) - or do you mean them as general descriptions?
they are the modes, and the ones ive been using, but wondered if some one could post a custom setting to use instead of these modes, i mean like

1 custom setting too use to take close up, another to use for a landscape shot and so on
Why do you want a "custom" setting instead of using the modes?

ie. what do you think you are trying to achieve by asking for custom settings?

Comacchio

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210 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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I would imagine it was understanding he is after. Once you understand WHY the settings work, you are set for any situation rather than relying on the computer inside the camera (which can trip up on difficult circumstances).

paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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Comacchio said:
I would imagine it was understanding he is after. Once you understand WHY the settings work, you are set for any situation rather than relying on the computer inside the camera (which can trip up on difficult circumstances).
yeah this, and also got the impression you can get a better picture with using none auto modes, so am i wrong

mattdaniels

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311 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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paul26982 said:
Comacchio said:
I would imagine it was understanding he is after. Once you understand WHY the settings work, you are set for any situation rather than relying on the computer inside the camera (which can trip up on difficult circumstances).
yeah this, and also got the impression you can get a better picture with using none auto modes, so am i wrong
Not wrong at all. It's just that asking for a "great custom setting" for you to use is an impossible question to answer, because as soon as you take the camera out of auto mode you have to make one or more decisions about aperture, shutter speed, ISO, white balance and the chosen settings depend entirely on the type of picture you're trying to take, the ambient light, the subject and so on.

I'd suggest you spend a bit of time reading up on the basics of photography, then you're in a better position to understand why the camera chooses what it chooses when you select one of the modes, and make your own mind up about when you want to choose your own, and what settings you choose. There's a great book by Bryan Peterson called "Understanding Exposure" which explains the basics and shows different scenarios with photos and what settings he chose and why. I've found it very useful, I'd recommend it.

Edited by mattdaniels on Saturday 16th July 17:34

AndyKH

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225 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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All these were taken with a 1000d, kit lens and a piece of £1 welding glass. My advice is read up and just get snapping, it costs nothing to practice.








paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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would have quoted but its long ^


that is amazing, thanks for sharing, gives me hope and inspariation

paul26982

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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mattdaniels said:
Not wrong at all. It's just that asking for a "great custom setting" for you to use is an impossible question to answer, because as soon as you take the camera out of auto mode you have to make one or more decisions about aperture, shutter speed, ISO, white balance and the chosen settings depend entirely on the type of picture you're trying to take, the ambient light, the subject and so on.

I'd suggest you spend a bit of time reading up on the basics of photography, then you're in a better position to understand why the camera chooses what it chooses when you select one of the modes, and make your own mind up about when you want to choose your own, and what settings you choose. There's a great book by Bryan Peterson called "Understanding Exposure" which explains the basics and shows different scenarios with photos and what settings he chose and why. I've found it very useful, I'd recommend it.

Edited by mattdaniels on Saturday 16th July 17:34
thanks great post, the book you recomend then will help me understand quite well and is a good base for starting to learn, think ill purchase, thanks very much.

seems theres two books too, A 3rd edition and How too shoot


Edited by paul26982 on Saturday 16th July 20:58

Simpo Two

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294 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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paul26982 said:
Simpo Two said:
Those sound suspiciously like 'modes' (little icons on a dial) - or do you mean them as general descriptions?
they are the modes, and the ones ive been using, but wondered if some one could post a custom setting to use instead of these modes, i mean like

1 custom setting too use to take close up, another to use for a landscape shot and so on
Close-up: the extent to which you can fill the screen with an object is determined by the lens; specifically its magnifcation ratio (you might find it on the box as '1:4' etc).

Landscape: Depends what things are important to you.


I think you're looking for magic when none exists.

Aperture
Shutter speed
Focal length

- are the main things you need to grasp; what they are and the effect they have. No modes, no custom settings, no black magic.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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Theres 2 sides to taking a photograph.

The mechanics and the art.

The mechanics can be learned fairly quickly and even ignored somewhat if you want to, just use the auto modes on the camera and it will figure out what to do (tho you give some of the control of the art side of things away here).

The art is much more important.

Comes down to things like framing, subject, light, position etc.

Framing - we have some useful 'rules' to help, rule of 3rds, spiral, triangles etc well worth looking into these but always feel you can break them if you need to. Typicaly if you have a subject central erc it will likely look wrong.

Try and look all round the viewfinder, identify what your actualy shooting (its rarely just all of it) and make sure theres nothing in there you dont want to be, distractions & clutter, lamposts out of peoples heads etc.

And in the end your capturing light. So always look for 'good' light, this is usually soft light or focused light etc, for landscapes this means hardly ever middle of the day. Also what you see with your eyes is not what the camera will record, it sees things quite differently , it will exagerate dynamic range, flatten images etc where what you see is something else almost entirely, theres some techniques you can use to correct for this (filters,processing hdr etc).

Simpo Two

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294 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Agree entirely, though I take the view that you should learn how the tool works before using it in anger. Then when you're faced with a potentially great scene you know what settings you need to get the photo you want. Learn to drive first, then go racing.

paul26982

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Sunday 17th July 2011
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thanks, this thread is been very helpfull