Newbie coming to a 'posh camera'
Newbie coming to a 'posh camera'
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lawrence567

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7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Morning chaps / ladies,

Currently my photography abilities are an Iphone 4 & a light amount of dabbling with a photo editing app on it!
I've recently been gifted some money from my parents for my birthday & i'm looking into getting a nice camera, to take photo's of my son, holidays & pretty much anything really!
I've always gone for the various compact offerings in the past from Canon / Fuji etc & they've never lasted longer than 12 months!
My brother currently has a Canon 600D with a posh fold-out screen.
I'd like a camera with HD video capabilites & a lens although i'm not going to really be taking photo's of stuff miles away so one of those peeping tom lenses won't be needed wink!
I'm also bamboozled by memory cards / which is best etc?
Cases etc, i'd need one of those as i have a canny knack of breaking cameras.
Plus any tips on what to buy / what not to buy would be a great help!
I'd like to go new aswell not used!
I've been suggested a Canon 550D?

Many Thanks!

Sorry if this has been done to death, but the PH search function was down!

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Canon would be logical so you could share lenses.

Do you want new or consider 2nd hand?

Budget?

What kind of photos do you want to take - indoor family stuff, landscapes, etc.

lawrence567

Original Poster:

7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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General use would probably be, mainly of my boy, so indoors, birthdays, christmas etc, playing out in the garden, days out with him, that sort of thing.
Budget is as litle as possble (as is always the case) however i could probably stretch to £600 if it was really worth it.
I'd like to buy new, not used, unless it came from a reputable dealer with a decent warranty etc.
Video capabilities is a must though as it's the whole packge in one unit then.

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Something like this new: http://www.digitalrev.com/product/canon-kiss-x5-18...

That would get you going, plus memory card, bag etc.

MPB Photographic are a good 2nd hand dealer (not used them personally).

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I don't think the OP needs an SLR, or even a bridge camera TBH - for what he wants to take a compact or even a good phone camera is going to be perfectly adequate. If he wants to get into "serious" photography then yes, but otherwise he'll be spending money on buying a lot of features he won't ever need.

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Maybe, but dSLRs are probably overkill for a good 90%+ of amateurs.

I often don't need thing things I buy, but man maths always wins.

lawrence567

Original Poster:

7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Mattt said:
Maybe, but dSLRs are probably overkill for a good 90%+ of amateurs.

I often don't need thing things I buy, but man maths always wins.
The problem with the compacts i've had is that i always seem to break them, or they always seem to die after about 12 months of usage!
Yes an SLR is probably an overkill, but i have spare cash that i don't need for anything else & man maths means i can now afford one wink

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Fuji X100.

Looks great, takes great pictures, reassuringly expensive. Small and unobtrusive for excellent candids and family shots.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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lawrence567 said:
The problem with the compacts i've had is that i always seem to break them, or they always seem to die after about 12 months of usage!
SLR's are alot easier to break, so by that logic it's worth avoiding.

I think ultimately it boils down to whether or not you've got enough of an interest in photography to put the time in to learn how to use an SLR properly. If you have and the money is spare then crack on. If you haven't then don't bother - get a decent compact as the results you'll get shooting auto on an SLR will be virtually the same.

lawrence567

Original Poster:

7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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tenohfive said:
SLR's are alot easier to break, so by that logic it's worth avoiding.

I think ultimately it boils down to whether or not you've got enough of an interest in photography to put the time in to learn how to use an SLR properly. If you have and the money is spare then crack on. If you haven't then don't bother - get a decent compact as the results you'll get shooting auto on an SLR will be virtually the same.
The compacts stopped working due to a number of instances, 1 being getting hit by a car whilst in my pocket, the next was dropped whilst intoxicated, the next brokem whilst intoxicated & the Fuji i had, just stopped working all on it's own & that was the one i looked after mostly. The money is 'spare' & i i'm willing to put the effort in to get a better result.

keith333

377 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I would def recommend a DSLR if you have a family and want to photograph your kids. They take a photo so fast you never miss the moment and you can hold the button down and it keeps taking photos. Later you can delete all the rubbish ones.

Flash is much better too so taking photos inside are great.

Compact cameras always have a 0.5 - 1 second delay which is a pain.

Major downside of the DSLR is that they're bulky. I've got the base Canon S1000d and cannot recommend it highy enough.

toasty

8,405 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
Fuji X100.

Looks great, takes great pictures, reassuringly expensive. Small and unobtrusive for excellent candids and family shots.
+1 Great, if you don't want the bulk of a DSLR. It really is a "photographer's camera" though with the fixed lens and complex menus, I don't think most people would appreciate its capabilities.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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lawrence567 said:
hit by a car

dropped whilst intoxicated

brokem whilst intoxicated
Not sure that this speaks, one way or the other, to the intrinsic durability of compact cameras!

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
Not sure that this speaks, one way or the other, to the intrinsic durability of compact cameras!
but what I am thinking is that it's better to break £100 cameras than £600 ones...

lawrence567

Original Poster:

7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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davepoth said:
but what I am thinking is that it's better to break £100 cameras than £600 ones...
But an SLR camera is not the sort of thing i'm likely to take out on the raz!

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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lawrence567 said:
But an SLR camera is not the sort of thing i'm likely to take out on the raz!
That's what phones are for, tbh. They're more than good enough for drinking photos.

lawrence567

Original Poster:

7,507 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
That's what phones are for, tbh. They're more than good enough for drinking photos.
Ok, maybe i need to clarify, the SLR isn't going to be taken out for going on the raz, that's what my phone is for & for videos when messing about with friends.
The SLR is going to be bought so i can learn how to take some nice photo's of my boy growing up, family birthdays, holidays etc, maybe some product images at work, i'd like to be able to take videos aswell so HD video & good quality is a must.
I'd like a general use lens & would like to know what the ideal proection for it (bag & what the best memory card type /size would be).
I have cash burning a hole in my pocket, wanting one, man maths says i can afford it as the cash is spare, i also like gadgets & tech & i'm willing to learn, is the Canon 1100D going to be sufficent or would you suggest going for something better?

Nick Grant

5,491 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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lawrence567 said:
The SLR is going to be bought so i can learn how to take some nice photo's of my boy growing up, family birthdays, holidays etc, maybe some product images at work, i'd like to be able to take videos aswell so HD video & good quality is a must.
I'd like a general use lens & would like to know what the ideal proection for it (bag & what the best memory card type /size would be).
I have cash burning a hole in my pocket, wanting one, man maths says i can afford it as the cash is spare, i also like gadgets & tech & i'm willing to learn, is the Canon 1100D going to be sufficent or would you suggest going for something better?
I have about £10Ks worth of DSLRs and lenses, most photos of my son are taken with my iPhone because the best camera is the one you have with you. If it's his birthday party I want to be part of the party, I'll occasionally take my phone out of my pocket and take a snap, then get back to joining in. You can't really get good photos on a DLSR without being the guy who's always behind the camera.

Nick Grant

5,491 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Just to add, another reason to use a phone for this is that the photos are instantly always with you and backed up to the cloud. I'll be owrking away from home a lot soon and I know I have hundreds of photos and videos of my son in my pocket which will be of great comfort.

GetCarter

31,239 posts

308 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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If you want a posh camera that won't break and have £600 then check out: http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?p...

(It's much better built than the Panasonic equiv)