Feedback on white balance/colour cast
Feedback on white balance/colour cast
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_rubinho_

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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So I was lucky enough to be at the Taj Mahal the other day (yes I know, worst I've been to the Taj Mahal thread ever). It's a hard thing to photograph, it's white, in smog and under bright sunlight.

The JPG straight off camera, with a CPL to try and cut through the haze, the building comes out with a pinkish colour cast like this:-



After processing the raw in DxO Optics the exported JPG is much whiter:-



I'm interested to know which rendering you all prefer; the original or the processed.

Thanks for your feedback.

Simpo Two

92,687 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Bottom one, bt it's leaning to the right a bit. I'd also select the top section and really hoof up the black level and curves as the constrast is very low.



(As far as I know CPLs don't cut through haze, that was UV filters in the days of film cameras)

Pixel Pusher

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188 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Processed for me.

With a tweak.


MysteryLemon

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220 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I had a go too. Thought your adjusted one looked a little flat.

mrmr96

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233 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I assumed the original was taken in twilight, and hence the colour cast being correct?
If that's not the case then good work on correcting it. I much prefer the white version though.

I guess in future taking a white balance card may help, BUT if the mis-colouration is being caused by smog between you and the subject, then the WB card won't help at all! In which case shooting RAW will be your best bet, as you can sometimes do a better job of WB correction in PP using Raw rather than Jpeg.

Pixel Pusher

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188 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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MysteryLemon said:


I had a go too. Thought your adjusted one looked a little flat.
Good result that.

yes

MysteryLemon

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220 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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In hindsight it looks a little yellowy to me now.

LongQ

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262 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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mrmr96 said:
I assumed the original was taken in twilight, and hence the colour cast being correct?
If that's not the case then good work on correcting it. I much prefer the white version though.

I guess in future taking a white balance card may help, BUT if the mis-colouration is being caused by smog between you and the subject, then the WB card won't help at all! In which case shooting RAW will be your best bet, as you can sometimes do a better job of WB correction in PP using Raw rather than Jpeg.
I would have said always rather than sometimes since you are working from original rather than previously processed data.

Of course that is not the only aspect of PP required in this case is sharpness and detail are the objectives but it would certainly be a good place to start - assuming that the camer in question has RAW capability.

If not, and the potential problem is spotted at the time, either try to set a custom white balance or, perhaps likely to be more appropriate in the circumstances, use a few different WB settings for different versions of the same image to provide more options in later PP.

Auto WB is a great thing but in uncontrolled conditions (e.g. outdoors with changing light and difficult scenes and conditions) it can sometimes choose options that are half decent compromises for the scene as seen but totally miss what would be preferable for the end result.

_rubinho_

Original Poster:

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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All really interesting, thanks.

I originally preferred the pinkish one as there was more contrast between the building and the sky. Having seen your better efforts of improving the contrast I now prefer the white versions.

The colour was partly caused by smog and partly the angle of the light, the sun was quite low in the sky (although it was morning rather than evening). I guess Auto WB got it wrong.

How have you managed to improve the contrast so much? I could have another crack at the raw files. I was shooting in RAW+Fine but switched that off halfway round as I was running out of card space.

My comment on the CPL and haze was badly worded, I meant that I used it to get a bluer sky so I would get better contrast to the white structure to try and bring it out of the haze.

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Colour is overrated.


indi pearl

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226 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Quick play in Pinnacle 14 which is a video editing suite.


_rubinho_

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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So over a year on and after playing around with Lightroom a lot this year I decided to have another crack at my tragic photos from the Taj Mahal. What do we think of this new effort? Any feedback very welcome. Thanks and Merry Christmas!




_rubinho_

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Friday 20th December 2013
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That bad huh? ;-)

The Nur

9,168 posts

214 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Will at least one of you straighten it up? It is killing me hehe

_rubinho_

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Friday 20th December 2013
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The Nur said:
Will at least one of you straighten it up? It is killing me hehe
My final one is straight! The towers themselves point outwards so if the collapse they won't fall on the main building and this is by design.

DibblyDobbler

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226 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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A good effort but the grass has gone a bit radioactive!

Merry Christmas to you too beer

2slo

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196 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Having stood right there and taken that shot I think your first effort was the nearest in colour reproduction. The Taj does have that pinkish tinge to it, especially in the morning when most tourists visit.