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The strange thing is; I went to a Gursky exhibition a few months ago and there was actually some really stunning photography there, as well as this kind of ...(how to put it politely?)...less striking work...
So while it's hard to believe that anyone would drop 7 figures on a Gursky photograph, it's even harder to see why they would do so on that particular one...
So while it's hard to believe that anyone would drop 7 figures on a Gursky photograph, it's even harder to see why they would do so on that particular one...
It would have been interesting to see the responses if the Gursky shot had been posted on 'Random' by someone without a big name behind them. I would predict no responses other than maybe a polite 'lacking a clear point of interest' or 'maybe try a grad filter next time as your sky is blown'.
Trouble is ... it's all about what something will be worth to sell at some future date... not how good it is. If that posh Middleton woman put on an exhibition, she'd sell them for shed loads however bad they were, as they will certainly increase in value.
I hate 'celebrity' me.
'Rare' I can understand.
I hate 'celebrity' me.
'Rare' I can understand.
Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 4th June 12:55
The Andreas Gursky Rhine pic is from the side of modern art that I don't appreciate. If it is something so simple that anyone could have achieved then it isn't for me. Someone who calls themselves an artist needs to display some sort of creativity, talent, or effort. The response is that I didn't have the idea or concept though... but I don't buy that!
I looked up other stuff of his and the repetitive details and patterns are far more interesting.
I looked up other stuff of his and the repetitive details and patterns are far more interesting.
Hub said:
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I looked up other stuff of his and the repetitive details and patterns are far more interesting.
I looked up other stuff of his and the repetitive details and patterns are far more interesting.
Like I said, he has some much more interesting work...and you really have to see them at the correct size (i.e. fooking massive... I think the F1 pitstop - this image shows only 1/2 of the picture - is about 2m high and 5m wide). Having said that, I was rather unimpressed by some of the photoshop work, it was pretty ropey in places...
GetCarter said:
'Rare' I can understand.
'Rare' can also mean that something was always undesirable, was a failure and hence few were produced,or they were cheap and nasty to start with and therefore were not cherished and have been thrown away,
or they were so badly made that 99.99% of them have fallen apart.
Rarity does not necessarily equate with value.
I certainly agree with you about celebrity.
Edited by Elderly on Tuesday 4th June 14:58
In this case I suspect that 'Large' has it.
An ultra-large image, of almost anything, becomes in some way fascinating. Think massive panoramas. Or the sheer amount of detail to browse through in a "Where's Wally" sort of way.
As an investment the Rhine shot has the advantage of being timeless in it's time. By contrast (and a lot of it) the pitstop may be more interesting, though perhaps not especially valuable, in a few decades. For a while.
Collectors are collectors and not guaranteed to be arbiters of good artistic taste. Many modern 'artists' are financially very grateful for that distinction I suspect.
An ultra-large image, of almost anything, becomes in some way fascinating. Think massive panoramas. Or the sheer amount of detail to browse through in a "Where's Wally" sort of way.
As an investment the Rhine shot has the advantage of being timeless in it's time. By contrast (and a lot of it) the pitstop may be more interesting, though perhaps not especially valuable, in a few decades. For a while.
Collectors are collectors and not guaranteed to be arbiters of good artistic taste. Many modern 'artists' are financially very grateful for that distinction I suspect.
I love Gursky's work 99 Cent II Diptychon is probably my favourite photo(s) I can think of, Quite like Rhein II as well. I probably wouldnt of said that a few years a go but this type of photography really appeals to me nowadays and the bright landscapes/seascapes at sunrise etc really don't interest me anymore. Not that similar but kind of along the same lines (not commanding the same prices though!) my favourite photographer at the moment is Edward Burtynsky, he has done some stunning stuff http://www.edwardburtynsky.com/
...Mole... said:
I love Gursky's work
Don't get me wrong. I like Gursky's work too... my problem is that It's art capitalism, with the emphasis on capitalism not art. It's just 'playing the market', with art being the stock.I'm sure there are collectors out there that have unlimited money and really want a Gursky, but I'd suggest that the other 99 that bid are doing it for possible future profit, and don't give a toss what the image looks like.
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