45% off Element at Amazon

[nellyleelephant]

Might be of interest to some, 45% off Elements and Premier Elements 11, today only.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adobe-Photoshop-Elements-P...

[blugnu]

And do they pay tax on that?

[GetCarter]

blugnu said:

And do they pay tax on that?

Your point being?

[blugnu]

That the economy and society is best served if we shop at companies that do not remove all profit from the country in which the customer is based. I'd have thought that fairly obvious?

[anonymous-user]

Freedom of customer choice in that customers get cheaper goods and not let the tax only be wasted on many half baked govt ideas/agendas.

You can shop elsewhere and pay more with a more 'social' retailer if you so wish.

Or the govt could have the will to sort out it's tax regime.

[nellyleelephant]

Ooooohhh, didn't intend for this to get political!

[GetCarter]

nellyleelephant said:

Ooooohhh, didn't intend for this to get political!

Neither did I. I just hope blugnu doesn't use Google, or drink at Starbucks, or shop in out of town retail parks, or buy fuel from Shell or bank at Nat West or buy asparagus from anywhere other than Evesham... etc etc etc.

I think Amazon suck for their attitude to tax. Almost as much as every Bank does. Thing is, Lloyds don't deliver to the NW Highlands

What we don't want, (and I think I speak for the majority here) is to be told (or leaned upon) as to what we should or shouldn't do, or where we should buy from. We have eyes and brains!

ETA - Just ordered from Amazon... pressie for a friend. Ta for the heads up.

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 26th June 19:22

[Janesy B]

blugnu said:

That the economy and society is best served if we shop at companies that do not remove all profit from the country in which the customer is based. I'd have thought that fairly obvious?

Shut up

[blugnu]

Janesy B said:

Shut up

Because you don't agree with me? How does that work?

[agent006]

Well done for only responding to the easy point score.

[tenohfive]

blugnu said:

And do they pay tax on that?

What's that got to do with photography? Feel free to take a trot on your organic, non-GM, ethically sourced high horse over to the news and politics forum if you want to chat about the ethics of big retailers - it's got nothing to do with photography.

Decent deal, hopefully they'll do something similar with LR5 in the near future - having used the Beta I'm a convert.

[2slo]

tenohfive said:

Decent deal, hopefully they'll do something similar with LR5 in the near future - having used the Beta I'm a convert.

Interested to hear how it differs from LR4 (which I use every day)?

[Janesy B]

blugnu said:

Because you don't agree with me? How does that work?

It's not relevant to anything in this thread or forum.

Go make your point elsewhere.

agent006 said:

Well done for only responding to the easy point score.

Init

[tenohfive]

2slo said:

Interested to hear how it differs from LR4 (which I use every day)?

I've not used any earlier versions of LR (always found Elements sufficient until I tried LR5) but I gather from some reviews that it's more of LR4.5 - some slightly improved tools but not necessarily enough to justify shelling out full whack for. But having tried the LR workflow I'm a convert, despite not feeling that anything was missing with Elements - it just works better 90% of the time.

[2slo]

tenohfive said:

I've not used any earlier versions of LR (always found Elements sufficient until I tried LR5) but I gather from some reviews that it's more of LR4.5 - some slightly improved tools but not necessarily enough to justify shelling out full whack for. But having tried the LR workflow I'm a convert, despite not feeling that anything was missing with Elements - it just works better 90% of the time.

Thanks. I found similar. I went from elements to LR4 plus CS6 and after trying the Topaz and Nik add ons I bought some of those too. I'll have a read of the adobe info in due course. From what I've seen every upgrade they bring out isn't really cost effective.

[blugnu]

Janesy B said:

blugnu said:

Because you don't agree with me? How does that work?

It's not relevant to anything in this thread or forum.

Go make your point elsewhere.

agent006 said:

Well done for only responding to the easy point score.

Init

It is relevant.

If I didn't pay any tax in my business I could sell things a lot cheaper. I do pay tax, so I can't compete on price with those that don't. If people decide what to buy based solely on price, the only retailers who will survive are those that don't pay tax. At that point, the country is screwed.

If price matters, get GIMP. It's free and, in my opinion, better than Elements. Although to be fair I haven't used Elements for about 2 years (when I had the latest version) so things may have changed.

If having any sort of society matters to you (or even if you don't want your rate of income tax to go up to replace the tax the likes of Amazon and Starbucks don't pay) then don't buy stuff from them.

But yeah, the wider picture is irrelevant. Society doesn't matter as long as you get Elements cheap, does it?

[tenohfive]

There is a forum full of people who want to discuss the ethics of corporation task.
There is a forum full of people that want to discuss photography.

There's a time and place for everything. This place is not the one to have your views rammed down my throat whilst I try to discuss the merits of different PP software.

[blugnu]

tenohfive said:

There is a forum full of people who want to discuss the ethics of corporation task.
There is a forum full of people that want to discuss photography.

There's a time and place for everything. This place is not the one to have your views rammed down my throat whilst I try to discuss the merits of different PP software.

Gosh you are tetchy aren't you?

I sense that you feel a certain dissonance because you want Elements cheap, but you know that I am right.

Discuss GIMP with me if you like. It's free and brilliant. I can't think of anything I could do with Elements that I can't do with GIMP.

[Du1point8]

blugnu said:

tenohfive said:

There is a forum full of people who want to discuss the ethics of corporation task.
There is a forum full of people that want to discuss photography.

There's a time and place for everything. This place is not the one to have your views rammed down my throat whilst I try to discuss the merits of different PP software.

Gosh you are tetchy aren't you?

I sense that you feel a certain dissonance because you want Elements cheap, but you know that I am right.

Discuss GIMP with me if you like. It's free and brilliant. I can't think of anything I could do with Elements that I can't do with GIMP.

If you need to make pretty basic adjustments: color, curves, contrast, burning, dodging, some moderate editing (erasures, skin cleanup, etc), gimp will probably suit you fine.

If you like, or need to make, more heavily processed stuff, if you're doing graphic art, if you need lots of color depth because you're producing high end work, gimp isn't your friend.

As for text.... GIMP is not your friend really and whilst it can do most of the things that Elements can do, they take a long time.

For the sake of £30-60 I would choose the tax dodgers.

[blugnu]

Du1point8 said:

If you need to make pretty basic adjustments: color, curves, contrast, burning, dodging, some moderate editing (erasures, skin cleanup, etc), gimp will probably suit you fine.

If you like, or need to make, more heavily processed stuff, if you're doing graphic art, if you need lots of color depth because you're producing high end work, gimp isn't your friend.

As for text.... GIMP is not your friend really and whilst it can do most of the things that Elements can do, they take a long time.

For the sake of £30-60 I would choose the tax dodgers.

I use Inkscape (inkscape.org) for vector graphics and text. That's also free and is software designed for that task. Unlike Photoshop and GIMP.

GIMP supports 32bits per colour channel, the same as Elements AFAIK.

What processing are you doing that GIMP cannot do?