Has anyone moved from 1D(s) series to 5D Mark III??
Discussion
I did, from a 1Ds2 (and previously 1Ds and 1D2) to a 5D3.
The 5D3 has AF as good, much lighter and easier to hold all day, great IQ etc.
The only thing it misses is the portrait grip, not an issue for me as 99% of my shots are off a cable release, and the feel that you could hammer nails in with it.
The 5D3 has AF as good, much lighter and easier to hold all day, great IQ etc.
The only thing it misses is the portrait grip, not an issue for me as 99% of my shots are off a cable release, and the feel that you could hammer nails in with it.
markmullen said:
and the feel that you could hammer nails in with it.
That's exactly what I was thinking...... My trusty 1D2 is getting on a bit (although I'm still more than happy with what it can give me). The price of current 1D model is a bit beyond my reach, so I was thinking of 5D mkIII. I am also thinking about 2nd hand 1Ds3 or 1D4 although with some reluctance, so I wanted to hear your opinion. I had an original 1D, then added a 1D2. Since then I've had a single 5D with the 1D2, then a pair of 5D2s and I've recently replaced them with 5D3s. The original 5D did feel like a toy compared to the 1D2 I was using it alongside, but I soon found that the reduced weight and size were actually quite nice, and better for my shoulders and back.
The current 5D3 is much more solid than the original 5D, and I feel no great desire to go back to a 1-series. I do slightly miss the handing and button-based (as opposed to dial-based) mode inputs, but the 5D3 has at last gained a locking dial so it's not as annoying as the previous ones which would easily change mode in your bag, or on your shoulder even. The image quality and focussing is the best I've ever used. From reviews, I suspect a 1DX is possibly a little better in both regards, but the 5D3 is certainly good enough for the things I shoot.
The current 5D3 is much more solid than the original 5D, and I feel no great desire to go back to a 1-series. I do slightly miss the handing and button-based (as opposed to dial-based) mode inputs, but the 5D3 has at last gained a locking dial so it's not as annoying as the previous ones which would easily change mode in your bag, or on your shoulder even. The image quality and focussing is the best I've ever used. From reviews, I suspect a 1DX is possibly a little better in both regards, but the 5D3 is certainly good enough for the things I shoot.
The 5DIII seems to be getting a lot of praise and one or two of the more active "Name" photographers have adopted it for much of their work, though they may also have a 1DX in the kit bag.
Alternatively 1Ds III bodies can be found on eBay for under £2000 - often well under. Getting one with all the kit may be the challenge, especially if you want the mains adapter.
1D4s still seem to attract a solid price, mainly.
Alternatively 1Ds III bodies can be found on eBay for under £2000 - often well under. Getting one with all the kit may be the challenge, especially if you want the mains adapter.
1D4s still seem to attract a solid price, mainly.
tog said:
I tend not shoot much in the way of extreme environments, but it seems pretty well sealed. Any normal UK weather wouldn't worry me in the slightest. Just rinse it off when done! Lenses need to have a filter for full sealing.
Not all do.The sealing isn't the same standard as your 1 series bodies, that's not to say it isn't good, just not as good.
True, some lenses don't need filters, but it's only the big teles isn't it? I have to admit I only really use plain filters in bad weather.
I've never worried much about rain, and the only camera I've had fail on me was an old EOS 5 film camera. Water got into the shutter button and a half pressure to focus just shot the whole film off uncontrollably! Took a couple of rolls of film before I realised what the problem was! Hung it up to dry in the airing cupboard and it was fine the next day
I've never worried much about rain, and the only camera I've had fail on me was an old EOS 5 film camera. Water got into the shutter button and a half pressure to focus just shot the whole film off uncontrollably! Took a couple of rolls of film before I realised what the problem was! Hung it up to dry in the airing cupboard and it was fine the next day
Thanks for your comments!
2nd hand 1D4 in excellent condition seems to cost less than 5D3 (also considering the extra cost for vertical grip), so I'll look into this, but I will continue with my research. But I will take a trip to a camera shop (there isn't one locally!) and see how 5D3 feels.
2nd hand 1D4 in excellent condition seems to cost less than 5D3 (also considering the extra cost for vertical grip), so I'll look into this, but I will continue with my research. But I will take a trip to a camera shop (there isn't one locally!) and see how 5D3 feels.
I don't think so. Pressing the multi-controller can switch between the centre point and a registered point, which can be different for horizontal or portrait shots. It might be possible to do what you want if you customise the setup a bit, but to be honest I find the number of different ways the AF can be set up quite daunting - I experimented a bit when I got the camera, found something that worked for me, and haven't really looked at it again since.
Gemm said:
markmullen said:
and the feel that you could hammer nails in with it.
That's exactly what I was thinking...... )Just an update..... I've got the 5D3! I've played with it for a couple of hours and here is my very quick impression.....
It feel very solid and good in my hands. Rubber bits seems to be more grippy than 1D2 (or perhaps the rubber on my 1D2 is very well worn!). AF seems very good, even seems better than 1D2 in low light. I'll check the tracking speed, etc in the daylight tomorrow. Shutter sounds totally different! I think the silent mode can be very useful in certain occasions. Definitely better than 1D2's silent mode. I'll just have to get used to different buttons and functions though. As suspected, it doesn't seem to be possible to switch to registered AF point quickly from centre point, which is a real bummer...... very disappointed about it but I guess I'll just have to find a different way. Another huge disappointment is the AEB selection. It's hidden in the menu! Why, Why, Why?? How do you guys switch to AEB quickly? There must be a way - I've put this in one of my custom shooting modes but I'd like to know if there's a better way.
Still, I'm very happy with the camera so far except for these 2 points. I'm very much looking forward to doing some shooting tomorrow!
It feel very solid and good in my hands. Rubber bits seems to be more grippy than 1D2 (or perhaps the rubber on my 1D2 is very well worn!). AF seems very good, even seems better than 1D2 in low light. I'll check the tracking speed, etc in the daylight tomorrow. Shutter sounds totally different! I think the silent mode can be very useful in certain occasions. Definitely better than 1D2's silent mode. I'll just have to get used to different buttons and functions though. As suspected, it doesn't seem to be possible to switch to registered AF point quickly from centre point, which is a real bummer...... very disappointed about it but I guess I'll just have to find a different way. Another huge disappointment is the AEB selection. It's hidden in the menu! Why, Why, Why?? How do you guys switch to AEB quickly? There must be a way - I've put this in one of my custom shooting modes but I'd like to know if there's a better way.
Still, I'm very happy with the camera so far except for these 2 points. I'm very much looking forward to doing some shooting tomorrow!
Gemm said:
Just an update..... I've got the 5D3! I've played with it for a couple of hours and here is my very quick impression.....
It feel very solid and good in my hands. Rubber bits seems to be more grippy than 1D2 (or perhaps the rubber on my 1D2 is very well worn!). AF seems very good, even seems better than 1D2 in low light. I'll check the tracking speed, etc in the daylight tomorrow. Shutter sounds totally different! I think the silent mode can be very useful in certain occasions. Definitely better than 1D2's silent mode. I'll just have to get used to different buttons and functions though. As suspected, it doesn't seem to be possible to switch to registered AF point quickly from centre point, which is a real bummer...... very disappointed about it but I guess I'll just have to find a different way. Another huge disappointment is the AEB selection. It's hidden in the menu! Why, Why, Why?? How do you guys switch to AEB quickly? There must be a way - I've put this in one of my custom shooting modes but I'd like to know if there's a better way.
Still, I'm very happy with the camera so far except for these 2 points. I'm very much looking forward to doing some shooting tomorrow!
Registered AF point is not something I use on my bodies (and I don't have a 5D3) but looking at the manual around page 328 to 332 suggests you can set what you want to set albeit it a few other parameters may need to be set first.It feel very solid and good in my hands. Rubber bits seems to be more grippy than 1D2 (or perhaps the rubber on my 1D2 is very well worn!). AF seems very good, even seems better than 1D2 in low light. I'll check the tracking speed, etc in the daylight tomorrow. Shutter sounds totally different! I think the silent mode can be very useful in certain occasions. Definitely better than 1D2's silent mode. I'll just have to get used to different buttons and functions though. As suspected, it doesn't seem to be possible to switch to registered AF point quickly from centre point, which is a real bummer...... very disappointed about it but I guess I'll just have to find a different way. Another huge disappointment is the AEB selection. It's hidden in the menu! Why, Why, Why?? How do you guys switch to AEB quickly? There must be a way - I've put this in one of my custom shooting modes but I'd like to know if there's a better way.
Still, I'm very happy with the camera so far except for these 2 points. I'm very much looking forward to doing some shooting tomorrow!
As for AEB .... not got that far in the manual BUT ...
I rather suspect that the capabilities of the sensors and some of the (RAW) processing software that is out there may lead a few people to wonder if they really need AEB at all - at least whether they need to get to it quickly as opposed to planning a shoot based on such a technique. (Or using the inbuilt HDR feature ....., er, well, feedback on that might be interesting ....)
Is it at least something that you could put on "My Menu" to provide rapid access?
I just found out about the 'Q' button! I'm not sure if it'll always stay on AEB highlighted, but if it does, I think this problem may be solved!
As for the AF points, it seems multi controller may be the quickest way. I'm so used to move my thumb from one button to the other (2 right next to each other) to switch different AF points (one always registered to the centre and the other registered to whichever pre-selected point depending on the subjects/occasions), but hopefully I'll get used to this quickly.
As for the AF points, it seems multi controller may be the quickest way. I'm so used to move my thumb from one button to the other (2 right next to each other) to switch different AF points (one always registered to the centre and the other registered to whichever pre-selected point depending on the subjects/occasions), but hopefully I'll get used to this quickly.
LongQ said:
Registered AF point is not something I use on my bodies (and I don't have a 5D3) but looking at the manual around page 328 to 332 suggests you can set what you want to set albeit it a few other parameters may need to be set first.
'Switch to registered AF point' in Custom Control almost works! The only issue with this is I can only assign this to the DOF preview button, which isn't the easiest button to access. But it's almost there. Gemm said:
LongQ said:
Registered AF point is not something I use on my bodies (and I don't have a 5D3) but looking at the manual around page 328 to 332 suggests you can set what you want to set albeit it a few other parameters may need to be set first.
'Switch to registered AF point' in Custom Control almost works! The only issue with this is I can only assign this to the DOF preview button, which isn't the easiest button to access. But it's almost there. LongQ said:
Wish I had time to read the manual more fully but with my 1D3 I tend to use the joystick toggle to change focus points within the set of sensitive cross points but whilst that works reasonable well for me it might not be ideal for you. And I am assuming that the 5D3 has the joystick - look like it does.
Yes, it does. That's what I meant by multi controller. 
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