Canon 28 105 F4L Anyone used one?
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I don't like the range on a crop body personally. Great lens though.
It was the 15-85 EF-S that I found worked best. I prefered this to the 17-55 f2.8, better range and pretty much identical IQ for a little less money. Those extra few mm at the wide end make it a superb landscape lens as well. A mjaor step up from the 18-135 and 18-200
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/15-85mm.ht...
It was the 15-85 EF-S that I found worked best. I prefered this to the 17-55 f2.8, better range and pretty much identical IQ for a little less money. Those extra few mm at the wide end make it a superb landscape lens as well. A mjaor step up from the 18-135 and 18-200
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/15-85mm.ht...
24-105 on a crop is a waste of time and money. Do you people not realise that you are not using most of the glass?
Anyway - the 24-70 f4/f2.8 is far superior in my opinion. Yes it is expensive, but when you are paying £500+ for a red band, as most of you seem to be doing then you have a lot of money anyway.
Anyway - the 24-70 f4/f2.8 is far superior in my opinion. Yes it is expensive, but when you are paying £500+ for a red band, as most of you seem to be doing then you have a lot of money anyway.
imsexyandiknowit said:
24-105 on a crop is a waste of time and money. Do you people not realise that you are not using most of the glass?
Anyway - the 24-70 f4/f2.8 is far superior in my opinion. Yes it is expensive, but when you are paying £500+ for a red band, as most of you seem to be doing then you have a lot of money anyway.
So don't buy the f/4 because its a waste of money as you're not using the glass, but spend more on a 24-70 f/2.8? Ok.Anyway - the 24-70 f4/f2.8 is far superior in my opinion. Yes it is expensive, but when you are paying £500+ for a red band, as most of you seem to be doing then you have a lot of money anyway.
Janesy B said:
So don't buy the f/4 because its a waste of money as you're not using the glass, but spend more on a 24-70 f/2.8? Ok.
You need to research the difference between a crop camera and full frame. On a crop, all ef glass is wateful and not needed. However in some situations it's unavoidable, such as with primes.
I know what the bloody difference is.
It's not wasteful, you can still make use of the better image quality and weather sealing. I suppose all those motorsport photographers as wasting their time with L telephotos on 7Ds? Care to link me to a fast EF-S telephoto lens?
It's not wasteful, you can still make use of the better image quality and weather sealing. I suppose all those motorsport photographers as wasting their time with L telephotos on 7Ds? Care to link me to a fast EF-S telephoto lens?
Edited by Janesy B on Sunday 3rd November 00:19
imsexyandiknowit said:
On a crop, all ef glass is wateful and not needed. However in some situations it's unavoidable, such as with primes.
Rubbish, apart from my 10-22 all my glass is EF and not wasted in the slightest. Crops & telephotos are especially good for wildlife / motorsportCrafty_ said:

umm, yeah, ok....
A crop sensor only used a small percentage of the full frame glass.
Perhaps you could also explain what camera you are using, and why you prefer the cheapy crop frame over the full frame. Perhaps you enjoy noisy images and poor iq.
imsexyandiknowit said:
Crafty_ said:

umm, yeah, ok....
A crop sensor only used a small percentage of the full frame glass.
Perhaps you could also explain what camera you are using, and why you prefer the cheapy crop frame over the full frame. Perhaps you enjoy noisy images and poor iq.
imsexyandiknowit said:
Crafty_ said:

umm, yeah, ok....
A crop sensor only used a small percentage of the full frame glass.
Perhaps you could also explain what camera you are using, and why you prefer the cheapy crop frame over the full frame. Perhaps you enjoy noisy images and poor iq.
Lenses are lenses. Five years down the line, assuming it doesn't get broken, the lens is worth a very high proportion of the purchase price, because it's still a lens. This is borne out by the price of used lenses.
The body on the other hand is going to be worth pennies in the pound; sensor technology marches on at such a pace that today's high end is tomorrow's camera phone. If you are a professional then I can see that a full frame body every couple of years is a business expense, but for the enthusiastic amateur, full frame bodies every couple of years is a big expense.
Money spent on a good lens and a cheapish body means you have a good lens today, and a good lens tomorrow, and a cheap doorstop in two years. Spending the money on a full frame body and a less good lens means you have a less good lens today, a less good lens tomorrow, and a more expensive doorstop in two years. I know where my money would go.
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