Best budget(ish) Canon lens for landscape photography
Best budget(ish) Canon lens for landscape photography
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2seas

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3,678 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I bought a Canon 1100d at the beginning of the year and I really enjoy landscape photography. I'd like to upgrade from the 18-55mm kit lens but i'm not sure what the best option is.

Could someone please help by recommending a good Canon lens for landscape photography? Budget of £400 at the most.

In my research so far this prime lens looks like the best option: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-28mm-1-8-USM-Lens/dp...


DavidCane

853 posts

270 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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For landscape you'll want wider than 28mm.

Look at the Sigma 10-20mm lenses for something which will be very landscape focussed. Also consider the 15-85mm as that's got fantastic image quality and would be a great all purpose lens as well has being wider at the 15mm end.

fido

18,861 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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+1 for 15-85mm.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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DavidCane said:
For landscape you might wider than 28mm.
EFA, I was on a 22 hour landscape trip to the Northumberland coast yesterday, shot some at 150mm, some at 135mm etc

What's holding you back on your current lens? Not wide enough? Not long enough? Not fast enough? Not sharp enough?

Don't get me wrong, I like a shiney new piece of gear more than as much as the next man but to be able to help you more we need more information.

If it's landscapes you like have you already got the other bits sorted? If not your £400 would be better spent on a tripod, cable release, a CPL and some ND grads IMO.

...Mole...

2,780 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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If it's a sole lens I wouldnt go for something with a focal length as limiting as the 10-20mm, It's a misconception that lanscapes need to be shot solely with wide focal lengths.

As Mark said if you dont have them, A good set of ND Grads, Decent Tripod, Cable release etc will go much further to assist your landscape photography than a new lens will.

2seas

Original Poster:

3,678 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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DavidCane said:
For landscape you'll want wider than 28mm.

Look at the Sigma 10-20mm lenses for something which will be very landscape focussed. Also consider the 15-85mm as that's got fantastic image quality and would be a great all purpose lens as well has being wider at the 15mm end.
Thanks for this I hadn't considered the Sigma and the reviews look great.

2seas

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Thursday 7th November 2013
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markmullen said:
DavidCane said:
For landscape you might wider than 28mm.
EFA, I was on a 22 hour landscape trip to the Northumberland coast yesterday, shot some at 150mm, some at 135mm etc

What's holding you back on your current lens? Not wide enough? Not long enough? Not fast enough? Not sharp enough?

Don't get me wrong, I like a shiney new piece of gear more than as much as the next man but to be able to help you more we need more information.

If it's landscapes you like have you already got the other bits sorted? If not your £400 would be better spent on a tripod, cable release, a CPL and some ND grads IMO.
My main issue with the kit lens is the sharpness. I also have a 50mm prime and a 55-250 zoom and the pictures I get from both of those are much sharper. There are some situations where I can use them for landscape pictures but obviously other situations where I would like a wide field of view where they hold me back.

I already have a tripod and cable release. I have considered spending the money on some ND grads but I decided that I would like to be able to consistently produce really sharp and well composed images before I try to add the extra dimension of using filters to my pictures.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Is yours the IS version of the kit lens? If so it is very capable of sharp results, in the right hands.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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The kit lenses from anything newer than a 550D are actually pretty good, you get a bit of distortion which can be corrected out and they aren't the fastest but I never struggled for sharpness.

...Mole...

2,780 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Most images will need shapening especially if resized have a read of this http://bythom.com/sharpening.htm good few other guides to it online as well.

I'd still go for ND grads over a new lens, will make a much bigger difference to landscape photos than an image that is a little bit sharper will!

2seas

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Thursday 7th November 2013
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markmullen said:
Is yours the IS version of the kit lens? If so it is very capable of sharp results, in the right hands.
It's the non IS version, but I would normally mount it on a tripod for taking pictures to ensure it's held steady. Maybe I'm doing something wrong then but i'm not sure what as the sharpness with my other lenses is noticeably better.

So if I were to use the Sigma recommended above would I not see an immediate increase in sharpness? If not then I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. Here's what I tend to think about to try and get a sharp image:
- I keep away from the extreme ends of the zoom range
- I read that the sweet spot of the kit lens is f8-11 so i try to stick to that range
- I use an app to calculate the hyperfocal distance so everything in the shot is in focus
Most of my images are coming out nicely and in focus but they just don't 'zing' the way i've seen in other landscape pictures on flickr etc. They just seem a little softer and the colors more muted. Any idea what I may be doing wrong?

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Don't mistake finished published images on Flickr etc as straight out of the camera, they will have had plenty of processing first, for a finished landscape to go on my site I spend an hour or so (occasionally more) tweaking contrast, saturation, clarity, sharpening, noise reduction, curves, levels, dust spotting, white balance etc.

That said the non IS kit lens isn't as good as the IS version.

Your technique sounds sound, as it were, so you're on the right lines.

The trouble with an ultrawide lens is you have to work a lot harder on your compositions, otherwise even large natural features just get lost.


DibblyDobbler

11,488 posts

226 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Maybe if you posted up a couple of examples of the shots you're not happy with ?

I'm no expert but if I was you I'd go for the Sigma - I used to have one and thought it was great smile

...Mole...

2,780 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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2seas said:
It's the non IS version, but I would normally mount it on a tripod for taking pictures to ensure it's held steady. Maybe I'm doing something wrong then but i'm not sure what as the sharpness with my other lenses is noticeably better.

So if I were to use the Sigma recommended above would I not see an immediate increase in sharpness? If not then I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. Here's what I tend to think about to try and get a sharp image:
- I keep away from the extreme ends of the zoom range
- I read that the sweet spot of the kit lens is f8-11 so i try to stick to that range
- I use an app to calculate the hyperfocal distance so everything in the shot is in focus
Most of my images are coming out nicely and in focus but they just don't 'zing' the way i've seen in other landscape pictures on flickr etc. They just seem a little softer and the colors more muted. Any idea what I may be doing wrong?
Most of the "Zing" you will be seeing is down to post production in photoshop, most landscape photos will benefit from some amount of post processing as long as you dont go crazy and turn everything up full, especially the saturation slider! if you need to view your photo with sunglasses youve gone too far.

Some of the past issues of onLandscape have some brilliant in-depth post production tips in past issues(as well as what is probably the best selection of landscape based content on the internet).
it is subsription based but there may be some free articles to go through and it is well worth the cost http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/

Edited by ...Mole... on Thursday 7th November 16:46

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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The old kit lens wasn't very good.

A 15-85 would be a fantastic tool.

Generally 10mm is too wide for most stuff and I love wide.. I mostly shoot seascapes really wide
15mm is plenty and you can mostly always stitch too

alistair1234

1,134 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Recently upgraded my kit lens from 600D to the 15-85mm.

Just watch out with prices, I paid £550 on Amazon with £50 Canon cashback a couple of months ago, it went down to £530 but now up to £598!!