New 1.1 firmware for 20D now out
Discussion
Bee_Jay said:
Get it here: www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/eos20d/eos20d_firmware-e.html
What, a firmware update already
Oh I forgot it's a Canon 
This is actually the third, just to help you Nikonites out with your Canon-bashing.
1.04 fixed some stuff, but broke a lot of cameras
1.05 fixed a load more stuff (camera lock-ups mainly), and didn't break anything
1.10 adds some languages and sorts out some banding at ISO 3200 with internal flash.
But then you D70 boys wouldn't know about ISO3200 would you? (or 100 for that matter, and I doubt any of you dare use 1600 because of the nasty noise)
1.04 fixed some stuff, but broke a lot of cameras
1.05 fixed a load more stuff (camera lock-ups mainly), and didn't break anything
1.10 adds some languages and sorts out some banding at ISO 3200 with internal flash.
But then you D70 boys wouldn't know about ISO3200 would you? (or 100 for that matter, and I doubt any of you dare use 1600 because of the nasty noise)
dcw@pr said:
And the 1d is solid as a rock
Yeah but speaking as one of the rare people who actually uses both a Canon 1D, Nikon D1X (and a D100 sometimes) all on the same day -
...only one thumb/finger wheel on the 1D????? Whats that about?
don't know what you're using, but I count 2 on mine......
srider said:
don't know what you're using, but I count 2 on mine......
On the D1X when you have one hand on the grip and th eothe ron the lens, you can control both aperture and shutter speed with your right hand - one wheel next to the thumb, and one next to the index finger. On the 1D there is just one wheel - next to the shutter release.
Or am I being blind?
dcw@pr said:
don't know what you're using, but I count 2 on mine......
On the D1X when you have one hand on the grip and th eothe ron the lens, you can control both aperture and shutter speed with your right hand - one wheel next to the thumb, and one next to the index finger. On the 1D there is just one wheel - next to the shutter release.
Or am I being blind?
Gotta love those Canon ergonomics!:cloudnine:
Martin.
They don't count - I'm talking about dials which affect the exposure controls of the camera. On the D1X you can do both aperture and shutter at the same time (with finger and thumb), whereas on the 1D you can only do one, using the wheel behind the shutter. The big wheel on the back doesn't (I don't think) control any of the camera's "basic" functions. In portrait format the D1X only has one wheel, as per the 1D - this is a fault IMO. I think it has been fixed on later models, D2H etc.
Nikons have better handling than Canons, no doubt...
Flamewar anyone?
Nikons have better handling than Canons, no doubt...
Flamewar anyone?
dcw@pr said:
The big wheel on the back doesn't (I don't think) control any of the camera's "basic" functions.
:Pantomimemodeon: "Oh yes it does!" : pantomimemodeoff: (well it's Christmas... nearly
) You can set the thumb wheel to control exposure, by default, using manual, it does the aperture and the finger wheel the shutter. Using custom functions you can swop this around. The thumb wheel also sits under you thumb in portrait mode so you still have two dials. You can set up the dials about 500,000 ways using custom functions so that the dials, individually or combined with buttons, affect focus control, exposure compensation focus points and tea making.
It's all a matter of what you get used to.
Bacardi said:
:Pantomimemodeon: "Oh yes it does!" : pantomimemodeoff: (well it's Christmas... nearly
You can set the thumb wheel to control exposure, by default, using manual, it does the aperture and the finger wheel the shutter. Using custom functions you can swop this around. The thumb wheel also sits under you thumb in portrait mode so you still have two dials. You can set up the dials about 500,000 ways using custom functions so that the dials, individually or combined with buttons, affect focus control, exposure compensation focus points and tea making.
It's all a matter of what you get used to.
Brilliant - I was hoping someone would tell me if this was possible without me having to resort to the destructions (which I don't have). Only problem is, I can't find where to do it - is it in the Setup Menu?
dcw@pr said:
Brilliant - I was hoping someone would tell me if this was possible without me having to resort to the destructions (which I don't have). Only problem is, I can't find where to do it - is it in the Setup Menu?
On the 1ds it's the fourth (last) tab on the right when you press the menu button to access custom functions and personal functions. Must be similar for 1d. Scroll through to see what they do. As a Nikon user, have you borrowed one to play with?
I've been given one one a permanent loan basis, with a 17-35mm and 50mm Macro Canon lenses, so it comes in very useful as a second/third camera when I'm not in a position to change lenses quickly. It's a nice bit of kit - definately has a more green hue to the photos, but on the other hand my Nikons are quite often too warm. Also I can't focus as accurately with it for some reason, part of the problem is that the AF motor is so quiet I can't tell wether it has worked or not!
I'll tell you one area where the D1X is much better than both 1D and D100 (don't know about later 1Ds') - the dioptre setting on the 1D and D100 can be knocked very very easily, which is a pain. On the D1X the knob thingy clicks in and out to adjust so it can't be done by accident. Why aren't all cameras like that, especially "Pro" ones?
I'll tell you one area where the D1X is much better than both 1D and D100 (don't know about later 1Ds') - the dioptre setting on the 1D and D100 can be knocked very very easily, which is a pain. On the D1X the knob thingy clicks in and out to adjust so it can't be done by accident. Why aren't all cameras like that, especially "Pro" ones?
dcw@pr said:
I've been given one one a permanent loan basis, with a 17-35mm and 50mm Macro Canon lenses, so it comes in very useful as a second/third camera when I'm not in a position to change lenses quickly. It's a nice bit of kit - definately has a more green hue to the photos, but on the other hand my Nikons are quite often too warm. Also I can't focus as accurately with it for some reason, part of the problem is that the AF motor is so quiet I can't tell wether it has worked or not!
Not sure about the colour difference as I don't shoot jpgs. Can't speak for the 1D as I don't have one but the 1Ds is similar and as well as having the usual white balance settings, has 3 personal white balance settings. I know green doesn't really come under white balance (unless maybe you are shooting under a lot of fluorescent) but there are also 5 colour matrix modes. between all these settings I would have thought you could find a happy medium. Talking of Nikon warmness, have you tried a D2H? The mate I share studio with (a confirmed Nikon user) had one on loan, he liked the camera but not the colour. I saw some shots which were fine but, some of shots seemed to have unpredictable colour shifts and, boy, when it caught hold of yellow!
You have to send of for a manual in the UK but can download a pdf for the 1D from the US site from this page. HTH
dcw@pr said:
I'll tell you one area where the D1X is much better than both 1D and D100 (don't know about later 1Ds') - the dioptre setting on the 1D and D100 can be knocked very very easily, which is a pain. On the D1X the knob thingy clicks in and out to adjust so it can't be done by accident. Why aren't all cameras like that, especially "Pro" ones?
Haven't had any problems with my dioptre setting myself. If all the best features from each brand of camera were incorporated into a hybrid, I guess we would have the camera of our dreams.
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