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Squishey

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576 posts

152 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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My wife has just been to get some reprints of our wedding photos done at a supermarket. Apparently she cannot pick them up without "proof of copyright"!! WTF furious

Shaw Tarse

31,836 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Who took the pics?

r44flyer

513 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Are they photos taken by a professional photographer? If so that's pretty standard although not always enforced. Some photographers will offer to sell the copyright so you can print your own, because they obviously lose out significantly not being able to sell you prints/books etc. if all they've done is take the photos and give you the memory card.

If the photos are your own ask for the originals and tell them to keep all the prints and go elsewhere.

jimmy156

3,763 posts

211 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Well done to tesco IMO. I know its frustrating so i do sympathise. But when i used to work in a photo lab the number of people who came to get pro shots copied, or low res images taken from samples/facebook/demo discs, sometimes with a watermark on(!) to print out, was amazing. They were usually very annoyed when we told them we wouldn't do it either.

To be fair, Tesco should have mentioned when you placed the order. Furthermore the person who printed them would have been able to see the resolution. If they were full res we normally assumed that the person had permission to copy them.

Squishey

Original Poster:

576 posts

152 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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They were taken by a professional photographer in Mexico. They are not protected by copyright. The guy simply put all the photos of our wedding on to a CD for us to do what we want with (as well as an album of selected photos).

Drumroll

4,378 posts

144 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Unless you own the copyright or have a release form from the photographer, then yo do not have the right to do reprints etc. Well done the store is what I say.

r44flyer

513 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Are they photos taken by a professional photographer? If so that's pretty standard although not always enforced. Some photographers will offer to sell the copyright so you can print your own, because they obviously lose out significantly not being able to sell you prints/books etc. if all they've done is take the photos and give you the memory card.

If the photos are your own ask for the originals and tell them to keep all the prints and go elsewhere.

Squishey

Original Poster:

576 posts

152 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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I paid for a package from the photographer. The package included his time, an album and a CD of all the photos that he'd taken of our wedding. I asked whether they were copyright protected and he said that they were not.

We have had reprints done by this store before.

markmullen

15,877 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Glad to hear the store doing it right.

Your photographer should have included a licence to print them on the CD.

Stores shouldn't be doing reprints and duplications without.

Squishey

Original Poster:

576 posts

152 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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I understand that this would be the case if the wedding took place in the UK and if the photographs were taken by a photographer residing in the UK. However, the wedding took place in Mexico and the photographs were taken by a Mexican photographer to whom we paid extra money to for a CD of all photographs taken. I'm pretty sure that the shop assistant is not qualified in Mexican copyright law, so what qualifies her to refuse us collecting our prints?!

We're not ripping anybody off, we're just trying to get some reprints done for family.

Drumroll

4,378 posts

144 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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unfortunately unless you have it in writing (ownership of copyright) it doesn't mean a thing.

To be honest far to many photographs are just used by people because they either a) don't now copyright law (basically if I took the photo I own the copyright) so they use them in any case. or b) just use them regardless. Lots of examples of both on this website.

coppice

9,573 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Oh FFS - since when has Tesco been the self appointed copyright police? If the pics were valuable or highly unusual (alien landing in Basingstoke , Elvis in chip shop, Eddie Jordan without his suspect hair ) then it might be sensible to check but wedding photos ...Applying the same logic as when they ask my wife (born in the fifties, if well preserved )'are you 18 ?' when we restock with booze. And asked quite seriously too.This will be the same Tesco who happily used to sell cassette tapes would it for recording medley tapes ? Will they also try to stop me photocopying my old school pictures from 1968 ?

Pit Pony

10,878 posts

145 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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coppice said:
Oh FFS - since when has Tesco been the self appointed copyright police? If the pics were valuable or highly unusual (alien landing in Basingstoke , Elvis in chip shop, Eddie Jordan without his suspect hair ) then it might be sensible to check but wedding photos ...Applying the same logic as when they ask my wife (born in the fifties, if well preserved )'are you 18 ?' when we restock with booze. And asked quite seriously too.This will be the same Tesco who happily used to sell cassette tapes would it for recording medley tapes ? Will they also try to stop me photocopying my old school pictures from 1968 ?
I'd play them at their own game. I'd write a letter from a mate, and get him to sign it, saying that the copywrite of all pictures of my wedding belong to me.



Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

285 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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coppice said:
This will be the same Tesco who happily used to sell cassette tapes would it for recording medley tapes ?
They didn't record copyright stuff onto the tapes for you though.

awager

204 posts

251 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Squishey said:
I paid for a package from the photographer. The package included his time, an album and a CD of all the photos that he'd taken of our wedding. I asked whether they were copyright protected and he said that they were not.

We have had reprints done by this store before.
Your photographer was wrong then.
Mexican copyright law is that the copyright owner is, in this case, the photographer and that copyright can be transferred but it must be in writing.

Tesco were correct to refuse to reprint the images regardless of whether you have done so there before or not.

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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awager said:
Squishey said:
I paid for a package from the photographer. The package included his time, an album and a CD of all the photos that he'd taken of our wedding. I asked whether they were copyright protected and he said that they were not.

We have had reprints done by this store before.
Your photographer was wrong then.
Mexican copyright law is that the copyright owner is, in this case, the photographer and that copyright can be transferred but it must be in writing.

Tesco were correct to refuse to reprint the images regardless of whether you have done so there before or not.
In any case, since the potential breach would take place in the UK it would be under UK copyright law.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Can't you just email the photographer and ask him to confirm he took the photos, and is happy to grant you copyright?

If he doesn't speak English and you don't speak Spanish, then give me a shout and I'll translate for you.

Drumroll

4,378 posts

144 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Simple if Tesco or any other photo-print outfit prints a copyrighted picture they are breaking the law.

TheGreatSoprendo

5,288 posts

273 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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What's to stop you telling them you took the photos yourself?

Mr Whippy

32,285 posts

265 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Photographers doing weddings should just charge more if they care.

Because, shock horror, people can buy a photo quality printer for £100 anyway, if they care to print copies illegally.


And given that those with high res jpg doing this will likely have implied consent anyway, as oooodles of photographers provide, then even less of an issue imo.


Go elsewhere, or buy a scanner printer combo and DIY.