Huge image needed to fit 18m x 3m wall.

[BGARK]

Hi, I need a generic image of a forest that works at high enough resolution for a dining room wall, with the image extending outside.

The highest part is 3.1m with a small wall at 1.2m high, overall approx 18m length.

I am sure at certain points the same image could be joined & repeated.

I am happy to pay for the image just have no idea where to look for one that is good enough quality and res at this size?

Any help much appreciated!

Example:

[V8FGO]

Have a look here for images.

http://www.istockphoto.com/photos/forest?facets={%...

or

http://www.shutterstock.com/

I guess you would need someone lie thi to print it off.

http://www.presson.co.uk/products/wall-coverings/

http://www.lavastar.co.uk/hoarding-print-design/

[steveatesh]

BGARK said:

Thanks, I can do the printing part myself, another example of the total area:

Just a thought - couldn't you approach ITV and see if they still have Hilda Ogdens "Muriel"(sic) lying around they could sell you? Complete with the flying ducks of course

[BGARK]

steveatesh said:

see if they still have Hilda Ogdens "Muriel"(sic) lying around they could sell you? Complete with the flying ducks of course

Last time I saw those was on your mums bedroom wall..

[55palfers]

Also, maybe check out some high-end wallpaper books.

There used to be a number of companies that did murals on a roll. Not cheap, but well printed.

[BGARK]

Thanks, its the images I am looking for, not the print.

[randlemarcus]

What resolution can you print at? That should drive the quality of the image. For that sort of thing, especially as you have the print side in hand, I'd be looking to talk to a local photographer to get them to take images of a bit of forest you actually like, rather than going for stock images. That way, it should be amazing, rather than just OK. Its a lot of wall to look at if its not right.

[BGARK]

randlemarcus said:

What resolution can you print at? That should drive the quality of the image. For that sort of thing, especially as you have the print side in hand, I'd be looking to talk to a local photographer to get them to take images of a bit of forest you actually like, rather than going for stock images. That way, it should be amazing, rather than just OK. Its a lot of wall to look at if its not right.

I could print 1440dpi buts that is a bit ott for a job like this. I agree about using a photographer, they don't really need to be local though.

[ExPat2B]

If you want print quality that high, 300dpi you will need to commission a photographer with serious panoramic experience, probably one of the people who have done gigapixel images. A picture 18 meters long at 300DPI is 212400 pixels wide, 3.2 meters high is 37800 pixels, convert to standard 24 mpix camera which produces a 6000x4000 image, that is 36 images on the long edge x 10 images on the vertical, which means 3600 separate images stitched together. That would present considerable technical challenges not only capturing the image as the light would be changing constantly but also processing and printing it.

You say you can print it, but have you really thought about that ? The ink alone for the above would cost thousands. You really want a commercial printer who is setup for that kind of scale...maybe you are such a printer, who knows...however if you are going to have image outside then I would be printing on acrylic not paper as otherwise humidity will kill the image in short order.


And there are other challenges, what kind of panoramic projection are you going to use ? Would you maintain a consistent point of perspective, which would involve building some kind of rig to guide the camera.......

[Simpo Two]

100ppi should be more than enough. Nobody's going to jam a microscope against it. You could probably get away with 50.

[andy-xr]

ExPat2B said:

If you want print quality that high, 300dpi you will need to commission a photographer with serious panoramic experience, probably one of the people who have done gigapixel images. A picture 18 meters long at 300DPI is 212400 pixels wide, 3.2 meters high is 37800 pixels, convert to standard 24 mpix camera which produces a 6000x4000 image, that is 36 images on the long edge x 10 images on the vertical, which means 3600 separate images stitched together. That would present considerable technical challenges not only capturing the image as the light would be changing constantly but also processing and printing it.

You say you can print it, but have you really thought about that ? The ink alone for the above would cost thousands. You really want a commercial printer who is setup for that kind of scale...maybe you are such a printer, who knows...however if you are going to have image outside then I would be printing on acrylic not paper as otherwise humidity will kill the image in short order.


And there are other challenges, what kind of panoramic projection are you going to use ? Would you maintain a consistent point of perspective, which would involve building some kind of rig to guide the camera.......

Disagree, in the OP's case it's going to be one image that needs quite a large upscale, which is fine - he just needs the hi-res image to start with and either give it to a print shop who can size it up as req or do some Google work and DIY it. The biggest challenge I can see is how to get an image that would suit the crop based on the architecture and step down of the stairs. I'm putting together an image off a single D7000 jpeg, upscaled it looks like it's a go for a 20 foot x 12 foot wall. Anyone looking at it leaning against it isnt going to get the best of views anyway, it's an image that needs to be viewed from at least 5 feet away, ideally more like 10-20 feet

[boyse7en]

For large format printing, the resolution depends on the viewing distance. A study paper done a few years ago suggested 100ppi at 10 foot, 200ppi at 4 foot, and that certainly correlates with my experience of designing exhibition banners.

[Mr Pointy]

andy-xr said:

Disagree, in the OP's case it's going to be one image that needs quite a large upscale, which is fine - he just needs the hi-res image to start with and either give it to a print shop who can size it up as req or do some Google work and DIY it. The biggest challenge I can see is how to get an image that would suit the crop based on the architecture and step down of the stairs. I'm putting together an image off a single D7000 jpeg, upscaled it looks like it's a go for a 20 foot x 12 foot wall. Anyone looking at it leaning against it isnt going to get the best of views anyway, it's an image that needs to be viewed from at least 5 feet away, ideally more like 10-20 feet

Well that's the problem when you are standing close it would look rubbish as you can see the pixels/dots. We have large graphics on the wall at work & while they look fine when you are on the other side of the atrium the effect quickly falls apart when you get closer. When you are close it's not a case of seeing the whole thing, it's that all you can see are the dots.

[BGARK]

boyse7en said:

For large format printing, the resolution depends on the viewing distance. A study paper done a few years ago suggested 100ppi at 10 foot, 200ppi at 4 foot, and that certainly correlates with my experience of designing exhibition banners.

Agreed, we also print banners which are generally viewed from some distance.

However this is different, as the viewing distance will be very close.

I have even considered using an illustration rather than an image.

[Rosscow]

BGARK said:

However this is different, as the viewing distance will be very close.

I have even considered using an illustration rather than an image.

I was about to suggest employing an artist

[Simpo Two]

Yes indeed, a 'muriel' could be the answer. I can recommend someone if you're anywhere near Essex.

[onyx39]

steveatesh said:

BGARK said:

Thanks, I can do the printing part myself, another example of the total area:

Just a thought - couldn't you approach ITV and see if they still have Hilda Ogdens "Muriel"(sic) lying around they could sell you? Complete with the flying ducks of course

Or the lounge wallpaper in the pub upstairs in Enders!

[BGARK]

onyx39 said:

Or the lounge wallpaper in the pub upstairs in Enders!

There is a bar in the 3rd kitchen area that will overlook this