A Shot to Nothing
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LongQ

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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One of the things that the digital revolution has encouraged is the opportunity of taking a "Shot to Nothing", previously something I would rarely do unless finishing an almost completed film.

The opportunity just to point and press the button without worrying whether the result will be good or embarrassing has never been more readily available to the keen snapper.

Here is one of my favourites in that the elements seemed to come together without needing any editing.




Abstract gallery anyone?

Edit.

Why does the result from fotango seem to vary so much from one viewing to the next? This looked pretty crap when I first tried it viewing through the fotango browser but a direct access to the link seemed much better.

Now it just looks poor and most of the effect is lost.

OK. I try some other picture hosters and hang their limitations.

Hmm. Let's see what photobucket does to it ...





Awesome. That's the third variation I have seen.

Oh well, it looked fine viewed directly using the url in Firefox.

Bizarre.


HA!

Looks OK in the PH post using Firefox! So the problem is AOL 8/IE. But in that case why do all the other shots posted look absolutely fine through the AOL app?

Crazy.

Looks OK with Opera as well.

Time to sleep on this one I think.




>>> Edited by LongQ on Tuesday 22 February 01:17

>>> Edited by LongQ on Tuesday 22 February 01:31

rico

7,917 posts

275 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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LongQ said:
Why does the result from fotango seem to vary so much from one viewing to the next? This looked pretty crap when I first tried it viewing through the fotango browser but a direct access to the link seemed much better.

Now it just looks poor and most of the effect is lost.

OK. I try some other picture hosters and hang their limitations.


Email me the pic at andrew.rixon AT kcl.ac.uk and I'll upload it and post here

rico

7,917 posts

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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LongQ said:






Not a lot of difference from what i can tell. Interesting...

longq

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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rico said:


Not a lot of difference from what i can tell. Interesting...


True.

Exactly the same fuzzy and blurry when I view through AOL8.

Fine with Opera or Firefox - although the larger image displays some 'blockiness' in the really dark sections lower left that the photobucket version doesn't. Probably because it's larger?

Ok. I am baffled. I would be happier (if you see what I mean) if all the posted shots exhibited the same problems.

I'll try to make some time to test with another machine (AOL9) tomorrow and see what turns up. (Tomorrow = later today!)

_Dobbo_

14,619 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Ao-Hell probably tries to be all clever and ends up the image up.

longq

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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_Dobbo_ said:
Ao-Hell probably tries to be all clever and ends up the image up.


True, but how does it make the decision to screw only my images?

LongQ

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Well, have now tried AOL 9 - the same, no matter what resolution I set.

So I tried IE which is V6 on this machine at SP2.

Exactly the same - so AOL may not be the culprits here.

Investigations continue.

getcarter

30,558 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Could well be this:

in AOL

Customise/preferences/internet properties - never compress graphics.

I gave AOL a really hard time about this over a decade ago - as the default is 'compress all graphics' (ie make them look s**t.

With the emergence of broadband, they now only squash the hell out of dialup.

Of course, it may not be that.

LongQ

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Good suggestion Steve - I'll try that next.

Some progress. Using IE 6 and having cleared the cached files which did not seem to be responding to a forced refresh, the newly re-read imported pics look OK.

Back to AOL9 to see what happens next ...

LongQ

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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OK, so 'never compress' and 'always re-read the files' has produced a much better result.

Which just begs the question - why was it that only my posted pics are a problem, not anyone elses?

Maybe something to do with caching from the review after the original upload to the hosting system?

I can sense more experiments coming on but first - lunch!

getcarter

30,558 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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remember when you re-view to "Ctrl F5" or you'll just see the cached version

LongQ

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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getcarter said:
remember when you re-view to "Ctrl F5" or you'll just see the cached version


Yep. But even then I was still seeing the fuzzy images until I deleted them from cache. So I suspect that for some reason it was till not re-reading the files.

That would explain why Opera and Firefox were OK since they do not (AFAIK) share the IE cache.

Of course all this has destroyed the original point of the thread ...

V6GTO

11,579 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Anyway, getting back to a language I can understand, I really like that image!

Martin.

longq

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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V6GTO said:
Anyway, getting back to a language I can understand, I really like that image!

Martin.


Cheers Martin.

I quite like it too. It replaced a rather nice sunset as my regular screen wallpaper.

Always carry a small camera and ask for a window seat ...

longq

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Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Well, forcing refresh didn't do much and on this machine I couldn't even find all the references to the cache versions.

So, back with AOL8 and the only thing that seems to make a difference is to switch compression off and then force a refresh.

I'm still puzzled as to why no one else's images seem to have the same problems viewed on my systems.

Think I will switch back to use compression and see what happens.