The Nikon F6 - why?
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simpo two

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90,566 posts

285 months

Friday 25th February 2005
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I can't understand why Nikon has launched a top-of-the-range pro 35mm film camera... wouldn't they have been better off putting the time and effort into DSLRs, trying to plug the gap between D70 and D2X?

beano500

20,854 posts

295 months

Friday 25th February 2005
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Well - things have moved on from the days when the F5 was all new. Any articles I've seen would suggest that this will be their last film SLR and they're definitely going out on a high.

I think, also that, they'll have a D100 successor out pretty soon (thus I predict that a D100 will be affordable for me soon - just missed one for £575 this week!)

Scooby_snax

1,279 posts

274 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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The D100 successor is rumoured to be coming out in the summer

beano500

20,854 posts

295 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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Scooby_snax said:
The D100 successor is rumoured to be coming out in the summer, and D100's are as we speak crashing down in value so fast that even that Beano guy will be able to afford one!!!!


YAHOO

341 posts

296 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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Sorry for butting in but im always amazed how customers are pushed in to digital by friends and others, my company sell most of you your cameras ,and although digital is good the F6 will always give better results every time than digital, thats if you want prints and not digital images.Something you must remember
My company prints all formats in all sizes and at the end of the day film wins every time, this may upset some of you who were sold into the digital world. Hence the NIKON F6 will be KING in photography and canon EOS 1ds Mark 2 will be king in digital images.I know i may be having a rant but one day you will see your friends with their digital camera no mater how small or big, will more than likley have very few printed memorys and the film user will have there memorys for life . As i say to friends if you cant take photos buy a digital camera their great.

_Dobbo_

14,619 posts

268 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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Well if you are going to butt in.... Consider the fact that I also have my memories for life on a DVD, which I can put into a DVD player anywhere and everyone in the room can see the photos together, instead of thumbing thorugh a bunch of 7x4s and taking it in turns.

Now consider the fact that all my memories are on my website where anyone who I want to see them can go and share them with me no matter where they are in the world.

Next to that, you can keep your 7x4 prints of your memories in your draw and get them out whenever your friends or family come over - I'll post mine out on CD or DVD, or share them on my website, and it wont cost me a single penny.

SO the only argument you have that is in anyway compelling is image quality. I wouldn't swap!

rico

7,917 posts

275 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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YAHOO = Mr. J...



GET DECENT STAFF!!!!



>> Edited by rico on Saturday 26th February 16:56

simpo two

Original Poster:

90,566 posts

285 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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YAHOO said:
As i say to friends if you cant take photos buy a digital camera their great.


A rather trite summary I think?

Opinions are one thing; arrogance is another.

NB 'Their'? I can still use film, but you are illiterate

:lightsHavanacigarandstumpsoff:

>> Edited by simpo two on Saturday 26th February 19:59

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

268 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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YAHOO said:
As i say to friends if you cant take photos buy a digital camera their great.


That'll be why the large majority of photographic professionals are switching or already switched a couple of years ago then.

The quality is there (despite what nutters like Rockwell say - www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filmdig.htm ) and the speed and convenience of the digital process speaks for itself.

It's a rare ex-35mm format pro who still shoots film nowadays, even the MF boys are switching.

Progress my friend.

P.S. - go and watch one of your nice VHS tapes on your black and white telly, I don't know how to watch films so I'll stick with DVDs and a plasma thanks...

Bacardi

2,235 posts

296 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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Bee_Jay said:
That'll be why the large majority of photographic professionals are switching or already switched a couple of years ago then.


I switched 5 years ago. Film? Can you still buy it?

ehasler

8,574 posts

303 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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YAHOO said:
Sorry for butting in but im always amazed how customers are pushed in to digital by friends and others, my company sell most of you your cameras ,and although digital is good the F6 will always give better results every time than digital, thats if you want prints and not digital images.Something you must remember
I know i may be having a rant but one day you will see your friends with their digital camera no mater how small or big, will more than likley have very few printed memorys and the film user will have there memorys for life . As i say to friends if you cant take photos buy a digital camera their great.
As far as I know, prints from the majority of high street processors will be produced digitally anyway.

Also, A Nikon F6 won't produce any better images than a £150 SLR given the same film, lens and exposure settings (although it's fair to say a £5k DSLR will produce substantially better images than a £150 digital camera).

A digital image can be printed out at home with the same quality as a high street photo print, and the lifespan of such prints will match the "proper" film prints as well. Even if they do fade, you've always got the original digital image on file to produce another print if necessary, which isn't an option if your original negatives become lost or damaged.

YAHOO said:
My company prints all formats in all sizes and at the end of the day film wins every time
I reckon there are more than a few people here who use digital who would disagree with that!

Scooby_snax

1,279 posts

274 months

Saturday 26th February 2005
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ehasler said:


YAHOO said:
My company prints all formats in all sizes and at the end of the day film wins every time

I reckon there are more than a few people here who use digital who would disagree with that!


Well I am one, my F5 is gathering dust (figuratively speaking)having not been used for almost a year since I turned digital. The outputs from my D2H are good enough to make magazine front covers and to produce 30x20 prints for private clients which in my opinion are of better quality than using Velvia100F with the F5.
YAHOO suggest you purchase this weeks British Journal of Photography an interesting article in there about major labs moving to digital ( correction have moved)...labs such as Metro.
Final point most agencies require images in a digital 40-60Mb format to get there you either have to scan a trannie or download the digital image and 'tweak it'.
Anyway nice to know there are still some traditionalists out there!

imperialism2024

1,596 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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And as far as all this talk of even the best digital cameras not being able to match film for larger prints... I recall a story from a co-worker of mine who had seen/lightly used a 30-some megapixel camera that a customer had brought in, which cost in the range of $75000 just for the camera body... Anyone hear of a camera like this? And, regardless of cost, would this not blow away the film-is-better argument?

simpo two

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90,566 posts

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Monday 28th February 2005
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imperialism2024 said:
I recall a story from a co-worker of mine who had seen/lightly used a 30-some megapixel camera that a customer had brought in, which cost in the range of $75000 just for the camera body...

I think Bacardi traded that in last month...