Shooting Helicopters. Tips?
Shooting Helicopters. Tips?
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Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Have never managed to get a really "good" helicopter shot.
Always find that there is not enough movement in the blades. I usually go down to about 1/125, is that too fast?

toasty

8,222 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Anything from 1/200th or below will give some blur but slower is better while keeping the body sharp (not easily done).

This is at 1/80th and is probably the best I've managed so far. Jets are much easier.


Army Air Corps Apache AH1 by Jason Cross, on Flickr

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,349 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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toasty said:
Anything from 1/200th or below will give some blur but slower is better while keeping the body sharp (not easily done).

This is at 1/80th and is probably the best I've managed so far. Jets are much easier.


Army Air Corps Apache AH1 by Jason Cross, on Flickr
Thats a great shot! Maybe I am looking at the whole thing wrong.
Just been looking at some of Lloydh's shots and that seems to be where he goes with heli shots too.
I think if you want to get anything approaching "full disc" you need a VERY long shutter speed.

brman

1,233 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Find a helicopter with a fast rotor speed. Apaches and Chinooks don't fit in that category!
Try and shoot from the same level as them, that way you can concentrate on tail rotor blur and the lack of main rotor blur is less obvious.
As said, lower the shutter speed the better but I never manage to get much below 1/80 before movement of the helicopter becomes a problem as well.
This is at 1/125 and almost gets a full tail rotor disc.
Marines Lynx AH7, ZD282 by Toby, on Flickr

toasty

8,222 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Trevatanus said:
Thats a great shot! Maybe I am looking at the whole thing wrong.
Just been looking at some of Lloydh's shots and that seems to be where he goes with heli shots too.
I think if you want to get anything approaching "full disc" you need a VERY long shutter speed.
Thanks smile

Grabbing ideas from others on here is something I unashamedly do, sometimes successfully, others I'm still struggling with. EXIF data helps a lot with this.

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,349 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Perhaps I shouldn't be too unhappy with this from last time around at Farnborough then

smile

Farnborough Friday 18th Jul 2014 460 by Jim Pritchard, on Flickr

GetCarter

30,817 posts

303 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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I'm no expert with anything that moves, but was quite pleased with this earlier this year:



ETA Exif should be there

Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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GetCarter said:
I'm no expert with anything that moves, but was quite pleased with this earlier this year:



ETA Exif should be there
Like that!

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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I work on Apache helicopters, and they're a pain to photograph. Their surface finish absorbs so much light, that usually you'll end up with something approaching a boring silhouette.

At least you can use a slow shutter speed with the aircraft stationary in flight. Not often possible with fixed wing aircraft smile

ecsrobin

18,524 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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GetCarter said:
I'm no expert with anything that moves, but was quite pleased with this earlier this year:



ETA Exif should be there
Cracking. Have you sent a copy to the crew?

GetCarter

30,817 posts

303 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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ecsrobin said:
Cracking. Have you sent a copy to the crew?
Just found them on twitter and posted it. Ta.

Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

174 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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ok, So 1/80th Seems to work ok!

Robinson R22 at FIA 2016 by Jim Pritchard, on Flickr

brman

1,233 posts

133 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Trevatanus said:
ok, So 1/80th Seems to work ok!
Nicely done: a nice clear tail rotor there smile

Actually on a hovering R22 1/125 will jsut about do it.........
Robinson R22 Beta by Toby, on Flickr

kman

1,108 posts

235 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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If you can plan for the movement of the helicoptor then a slow shutter pan could give good results of sharp body and motion blur rotors.

kman

1,108 posts

235 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Tony1963 said:
I work on Apache helicopters, and they're a pain to photograph. Their surface finish absorbs so much light, that usually you'll end up with something approaching a boring silhouette.

At least you can use a slow shutter speed with the aircraft stationary in flight. Not often possible with fixed wing aircraft smile
On the ground with some use of flash the Apache's would look stunning! In the air against a backlit bright sky I see your problem - would have to expose for the Apache and accept or replace a blown out sky.

Name of user

177 posts

131 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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GCHQ will be all over this thread title!

paul.deitch

2,287 posts

281 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Ha! I had a similar thought along the lines of "Use an anti aircraft missile" but thought that I'd get shot down myself.

Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

174 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Then you get people like Lloyd, who just ruins it for all of us!
yikes



Edited by Trevatanus on Tuesday 2nd August 09:01

brman

1,233 posts

133 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Trevatanus said:
Then you get people like Lloyd, who just ruin it for all of us!
yikes

He is cheating there, aircraft is stationary and he is almost certainly using a tripod. wink

but yes, lloydh takes some damn good photos.......