photoshop colours
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Hi
I was wondering if anyone here could shed a bit of light on a photoshop problem I have been having for months now.
Whenever im working away in photoshop the colour it displays is never the same as the colour that is displayed in windows if i save to a jpg or tiff. Browns seem to go greyish, it happens all the time. It means i have to save a picture see how it looks then guess what to change in photoshop and try again. Basically trial and error, which is now getting very frustrating.
You can see the problem in this pic.
[url]www.speed-shot.co.uk/argh.jpg[/url]
the pic shows a screenshot of photoshop open an orange image, the photo next to it is saved as a jpg. You can see they are both different. Also when i saved the screenshot the grey / blue of Windows XP has changed to be a pinkish grey?
If i look at the image in opera the colours look different again? If i open the pic in the screenshot into opera it matches adobe?
My monitor is a syncMaster 152V.
Apologies for the long post but this is driving me mad. Have tried both Photoshop 7 and CS and exactly the same happens in both.
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Stuart
I was wondering if anyone here could shed a bit of light on a photoshop problem I have been having for months now.
Whenever im working away in photoshop the colour it displays is never the same as the colour that is displayed in windows if i save to a jpg or tiff. Browns seem to go greyish, it happens all the time. It means i have to save a picture see how it looks then guess what to change in photoshop and try again. Basically trial and error, which is now getting very frustrating.
You can see the problem in this pic.
[url]www.speed-shot.co.uk/argh.jpg[/url]
the pic shows a screenshot of photoshop open an orange image, the photo next to it is saved as a jpg. You can see they are both different. Also when i saved the screenshot the grey / blue of Windows XP has changed to be a pinkish grey?
If i look at the image in opera the colours look different again? If i open the pic in the screenshot into opera it matches adobe?
My monitor is a syncMaster 152V.
Apologies for the long post but this is driving me mad. Have tried both Photoshop 7 and CS and exactly the same happens in both.
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Stuart
i have noticed that effect aswell, although no where near as pronounced as it seems to be from your example. i go through pictures with windows picture viewer and think "i will see what photoshop can do to that" and when i open it in photoshop it is already displayed differently.
dont know why tho!
dont know why tho!
Thanks for the replies,
My mate has Adobe Photoshop CS, so using MSN messanger i have been getting him to send me all his colour settings and i changed mines to match. And it still does it. However, now if i open the image in opera browser the colours do match photoshop.
Could this be a problem with my windows, im running XP and when i open an image it is using a program called Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. Is this a naff program?, i think it was the default program that came with windows.
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Stuart
My mate has Adobe Photoshop CS, so using MSN messanger i have been getting him to send me all his colour settings and i changed mines to match. And it still does it. However, now if i open the image in opera browser the colours do match photoshop.
Could this be a problem with my windows, im running XP and when i open an image it is using a program called Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. Is this a naff program?, i think it was the default program that came with windows.
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Stuart
The answer is pretty simple - don't use Windows Picture Viewer as your default picture viewer.
I recommend VuePrint or one of the software programmes bundled with medium to high end digital SLRs, ie Fuji FinepIX viewer or Nikon Picture Project. This will make a big difference.
www.fluidimages.co.uk
I recommend VuePrint or one of the software programmes bundled with medium to high end digital SLRs, ie Fuji FinepIX viewer or Nikon Picture Project. This will make a big difference.
www.fluidimages.co.uk
This stuff always confuses me but could it be that Photoshop and Opera are reading the colour space set in the photo but windows is not and is using the default windows sRGB profile. Which colour space do you have set in the camera and do you have Photoshop set to ignore the embedded colour space or to convert it to whatever.
Hopefully somebody who knows what they are talking about will be along in a short time
Hopefully somebody who knows what they are talking about will be along in a short time
This sounds like a colour management issue - Photoshop and Opera are both colour management aware applications, but Internet Explorer isn't.
I'm assuming that your image has a profile like Adobe RGB assigned to it, so Photoshop will be converting the colours from the image profile to the monitor profile, which displays it as it should.
In a non-colour managed app, the image is just being displayed with no knowledge of the source and destination profile, hence all the colours are different to the image that Photoshop displays.
What you need to do is convert (not assign) the image to sRGB in Photoshop before saving as a jpg, which is the standard profile for non colour managed monitors, and this should make it much closer to the original image in PS.
Also, it would be a good idea to calibrate and profile your monitor if you haven't already done so. It is possible to do this with a free utility (Adobe Gamma, supplied with PS), however you get much better results by using a device like the ColorVision Spyder2.
I'm assuming that your image has a profile like Adobe RGB assigned to it, so Photoshop will be converting the colours from the image profile to the monitor profile, which displays it as it should.
In a non-colour managed app, the image is just being displayed with no knowledge of the source and destination profile, hence all the colours are different to the image that Photoshop displays.
What you need to do is convert (not assign) the image to sRGB in Photoshop before saving as a jpg, which is the standard profile for non colour managed monitors, and this should make it much closer to the original image in PS.
Also, it would be a good idea to calibrate and profile your monitor if you haven't already done so. It is possible to do this with a free utility (Adobe Gamma, supplied with PS), however you get much better results by using a device like the ColorVision Spyder2.
(That is a joke, don't start a war... - I use both)
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