Advice needed on Infrared photography
Discussion
I've had a Cokin infrared filter for just over a year and have hardly used it. However I decided to use it in the lake district recently and got this....

I was bracketing all over the place and checking the histogram for exposure and after tweaking in Rawshooter I am reasonably happy with the above.
I know that polarisers work best at certain angles to the sun, that low angles of light at start or end of day is better/less hazy etc etc etc, but rather than just getting lucky as I did with the above shot I need to understand the theory of infrared techniques a bit better. So...
1. what are the best conditions / times of day etc for infrared?
2. I understand that you should manually select slightly out of focus, but should you focus infront or behind of subject?
3. If using a wideangle with greater depth of field is the focussing less of an issue and it's ok to focus on the subject?
I'm away again in a couple of weeks so hopefully someone can help me before then!!
Cheers, Longers

I was bracketing all over the place and checking the histogram for exposure and after tweaking in Rawshooter I am reasonably happy with the above.
I know that polarisers work best at certain angles to the sun, that low angles of light at start or end of day is better/less hazy etc etc etc, but rather than just getting lucky as I did with the above shot I need to understand the theory of infrared techniques a bit better. So...
1. what are the best conditions / times of day etc for infrared?
2. I understand that you should manually select slightly out of focus, but should you focus infront or behind of subject?
3. If using a wideangle with greater depth of field is the focussing less of an issue and it's ok to focus on the subject?
I'm away again in a couple of weeks so hopefully someone can help me before then!!
Cheers, Longers
Guess you have found: http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html by now?

Longers said:
1. what are the best conditions / times of day etc for infrared?
Sunny, but cloudy will work too I believeLongers said:
2. I understand that you should manually select slightly out of focus, but should you focus infront or behind of subject?
In the good old days the lenses used to have marks alongside the depth of field marks. IIRC used to be about the f5.6 nearer focus pointLongers said:
3. If using a wideangle with greater depth of field is the focussing less of an issue and it's ok to focus on the subject?
Wide angle and stopped down a bit will do the trick Thank for the comments

beano500 said:
Guess you have found: http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html by now?
I have now you should find this very useful:
http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm
if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.
i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.
d
http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm
if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.
i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.
dF308 MAN said:
you should find this very useful:
http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm
if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.
i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.
d
Great link - thanks for that!http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm
if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.
i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.
dAlso, thanks for the loan of the kit but I think I'll be ok with what I've got once I've read up on the techniques to use!
Longers
poah said:
not sure how much effect a CP will have on IR light worth a try to see the difference.
This surprised me too ....dfwiw site said:
Supplemental Filters
Atmospheric scatter is seldom a concern in IR work, but unwanted IR reflections may still warrant a polarizer. I also can think of a few snowy IR scenes where an upside-down Graduated ND might have helped, but the naturally dark skies in IR photos generally make life easier on the excess contrast front. At altitude, your IR shots might benefit from a UV-cutting haze filter.
Atmospheric scatter is seldom a concern in IR work, but unwanted IR reflections may still warrant a polarizer. I also can think of a few snowy IR scenes where an upside-down Graduated ND might have helped, but the naturally dark skies in IR photos generally make life easier on the excess contrast front. At altitude, your IR shots might benefit from a UV-cutting haze filter.
Edited by Longers on Friday 21st September 07:32
Maybe try a less extreme "infra-red"? I have yet to try out the D2X (and not really expecting much), but the D70 gave quite acceptable images with a "deep red" filter, not necessarily a true IR one (I suspect - since you can actually see through it even if it is a deep red) from SRB Griturn that is labeled the R72...
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