Advice needed on Infrared photography
Advice needed on Infrared photography
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Longers

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4,505 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th September 2007
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I've had a Cokin infrared filter for just over a year and have hardly used it. However I decided to use it in the lake district recently and got this....

I was bracketing all over the place and checking the histogram for exposure and after tweaking in Rawshooter I am reasonably happy with the above.

I know that polarisers work best at certain angles to the sun, that low angles of light at start or end of day is better/less hazy etc etc etc, but rather than just getting lucky as I did with the above shot I need to understand the theory of infrared techniques a bit better. So...
1. what are the best conditions / times of day etc for infrared?
2. I understand that you should manually select slightly out of focus, but should you focus infront or behind of subject?
3. If using a wideangle with greater depth of field is the focussing less of an issue and it's ok to focus on the subject?

I'm away again in a couple of weeks so hopefully someone can help me before then!!

Cheers, Longers

beano500

20,854 posts

306 months

Wednesday 19th September 2007
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Guess you have found: http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html by now?


Longers said:
1. what are the best conditions / times of day etc for infrared?
Sunny, but cloudy will work too I believe
Longers said:
2. I understand that you should manually select slightly out of focus, but should you focus infront or behind of subject?
In the good old days the lenses used to have marks alongside the depth of field marks. IIRC used to be about the f5.6 nearer focus point
Longers said:
3. If using a wideangle with greater depth of field is the focussing less of an issue and it's ok to focus on the subject?
Wide angle and stopped down a bit will do the trick thumbup

DIW35

4,205 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th September 2007
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Interesting that infrared shows detail in the reflections on the water. I would have thought the temperature of the water would have made the reflections less discernable.

poah

2,142 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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fir IR pgotography to work you need a source of IR radiation = sunlight and something to reflet it = green leaves. anything that absorbs IR radation will show up dark = blue sky. not sure how much effect a CP will have on IR light worth a try to see the difference.

Longers

Original Poster:

4,505 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Thank for the comments

beano500 said:
Guess you have found: http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html by now?
I have now thumbup

F308 MAN

1,029 posts

268 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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you should find this very useful:
http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm

if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.

i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.

beer d

Longers

Original Poster:

4,505 posts

259 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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F308 MAN said:
you should find this very useful:
http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm

if you wish to go a tad further, i could possibly loan you either an olympus C2020-Z or a minolta dimage 7 c/w necessary filters.

i hope you find what you're looking for .... IR is very rewarding and sometimes most surprising.

beer d
Great link - thanks for that!
Also, thanks for the loan of the kit but I think I'll be ok with what I've got once I've read up on the techniques to use!

Longers

Longers

Original Poster:

4,505 posts

259 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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poah said:
not sure how much effect a CP will have on IR light worth a try to see the difference.
This surprised me too ....
dfwiw site said:
Supplemental Filters

Atmospheric scatter is seldom a concern in IR work, but unwanted IR reflections may still warrant a polarizer. I also can think of a few snowy IR scenes where an upside-down Graduated ND might have helped, but the naturally dark skies in IR photos generally make life easier on the excess contrast front. At altitude, your IR shots might benefit from a UV-cutting haze filter.
Edited by Longers on Friday 21st September 07:32

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

279 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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Longers, what camera are you shooting your IR photos with?

Rednut05

9,173 posts

244 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Longers, what camera are you shooting your IR photos with?
EXIF says Nikon D100

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

279 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Oops didn't think of that. I was wondering if it was a D200 as I seem to be incapable of getting the camera to register any light at all with an infra-red filter on.

beano500

20,854 posts

306 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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scratchchin Maybe try a less extreme "infra-red"?

I have yet to try out the D2X (and not really expecting much), but the D70 gave quite acceptable images with a "deep red" filter, not necessarily a true IR one (I suspect - since you can actually see through it even if it is a deep red) from SRB Griturn that is labeled the R72...

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

298 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
I was wondering if it was a D200 as I seem to be incapable of getting the camera to register any light at all with an infra-red filter on.
They do do IR photography, but the sensor is less sensitive to IR than a D70 to IR, so you need a longer exposure...

HTH

Chris

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

279 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Cheers Chris. When after 5 minutes at f/4 on a sunny day I ended up with a completely black screen, I pretty much gave up. 77mm IR filter going cheap, only used once!

smile

F308 MAN

1,029 posts

268 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Cheers Chris. When after 5 minutes at f/4 on a sunny day I ended up with a completely black screen, I pretty much gave up. 77mm IR filter going cheap, only used once!

smile
i'll go as high as ten bob ?

beano500

20,854 posts

306 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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F308 MAN said:
ten bob


Showing yer age, now!

(It's got to be worth a guinea)