Best RAW Manipulating software?
Best RAW Manipulating software?
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matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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What is the forum concensus on software for working with RAW files?

Lightroom?

Something else?

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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I (well, the missus) uses a combination of RAWShooter and CS3.

RAWShooter is great (and free) - IF - you can find a copy.

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Isn't RAWShooter what Adobe bought in order to make Lightroom? I thought it was pretty much impossible to find now.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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matthew_h said:
Isn't RAWShooter what Adobe bought in order to make Lightroom? I thought it was pretty much impossible to find now.
Google should turn it up, but yes, Adobe bought it up and ruined it.

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Is Lightroom a poor relation to RAWShooter then?

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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matthew_h said:
Is Lightroom a poor relation to RAWShooter then?
I'm not a fan, but many people are.

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Would you mind elaborating on the reasons?

I've not used either so would appreciate some more detail

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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matthew_h said:
Would you mind elaborating on the reasons?

I've not used either so would appreciate some more detail
I like the simple controls of RawShooter, and find that Lightroom is a bit bloated and overcomlicated for what is essentially the same result.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Rawshooter Essentials 2006 (the free version) is available for download here:

http://www.photo-freeware.net/raw-shooter-essentia...

Simon

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Cheers chaps.

I'll d/l Rawshooter and see how I get on I think.

Sorted

trackdemon

13,476 posts

292 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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I've got a copy of RAWSHOOTER if you're interested. I've been using it for ages now, great product: quick, simple interface, great noise reduction abilities, and some of the auto settings are superb for the time poor/lazy wink

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Actually, since we're talking abour RawShooter - has anyone got the "Premium" version..? - and if so, what is the difference between that and the freebie "Essentials" variant..?

TIA smile

Amanda Huggnkiss

22,454 posts

241 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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I cannot and will not fault the excellent Canon Digital photo professional that ships with their kit. Fantastic raw editing tool

ehasler

8,579 posts

314 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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I used to use Rawshooter Premium, which I thought was great, but had to move to something else when I upgraded to a Mac as Rawshooter is PC only. Decided to give Lightroom a go, and I think it's great!!! I'm still getting used to it, however I'd rate it better than RawShooter - it seems to give better results straight out the box with less tweaking required.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Podie said:
Actually, since we're talking abour RawShooter - has anyone got the "Premium" version..? - and if so, what is the difference between that and the freebie "Essentials" variant..?

TIA smile
Here you go Podie -

This is a list of things in Premium, not in Essentials (v2006).

Simon



RAW vs. RAW comparison

A DSLR encourages you to take a number of similar images, which causes a time delay during the editing stage of your workflow. The new RAW vs. RAW comparison tool removes this headache by allowing 2, 3 or 4 RAW images to be compared on the same screen in either vertical or horizontal format. Using the fully integrated zoom and navigation functions of RawShooter | premium 2006 all of the images can be magnified to 800% simultaneously for the ultimate in sharpness evaluation. Once the best image in the sequence has been identified it can be prioritised for further processing; the others can be marked for immediate deletion. Fully integrated with the dynamic preview and navigator, this fantastic new tool will greatly improve your workflow.

Curves / Levels support

Thanks to everyone who requested this on our support forums. Full curves / levels support has now been integrated into the product. Centrally located on the Corrections window, curves / levels support will allow sophisticated corrections to be made to the tonal and exposure range of the image in the same fashion that is possible on much more expensive editing programs. Several pre-defined curves are provided (linear and high / medium contrast), as is the ability to fix points to create and save your own custom “S” curve. Eyedroppers are also provided to allow an experienced user to specify both highlight and shadow points.

Integrated Downloader

Our fully integrated downloader will manage the download of your RAW files for you from an external card reader or a portable downloader / storage device to a chosen workstation directory. It will automatically flatten any number of directories (which are typically created on a portable downloader) to a single one (or preserve them if required) and will automatically create the high resolution files needed for preview and correction. This means that when you come back from a shoot, you can let RawShooter | premium 2006 do all the hard work in downloading and preparing your RAW files for editing. Options are provided for renaming too, complete with masks, and you can also specify whether to move the files from their original location or just copy them. A great new feature that will save you time and hassle.

Personalized Appearance

This great new tool allows you to save away a combination of corrections as a personalized appearance. One obvious example is to match the output of high saturation slide films, something which DSLRs have struggled to do, to date.

Sophisticated Correction Tools

Several powerful and intelligent new tools have been added to the RawShooter | premium 2006 workflow. Vibrance is an intelligent saturation tool that creates the visual impact (the “punch&#8221wink of high saturation slide films by applying saturation only to areas where it is needed. It gives the effect of a high saturation slide film. Colour Balance allows a colour caste to be applied to an image and produces the same effect as using a filter on a lens. The Hot Pixel / Pattern noise suppression tool has a dual purpose; the hot pixel suppression combats the effect seen by photographers who take long-exposures (landscape photographers for example). The pattern noise suppression assists those of you who have budget DSLRs or compacts to reduce the noise generated in your RAW images.

FastBrowse

A new option which allows RawShooter | premium 2006 to act as a browser for large numbers of RAW thumbnails without degrading the performance of the host PC. This feature is useful if file management operations such as move / copy need to be carried out on a large directory of RAW files using the powerful drag & drop capabilities of the user interface.

Image Formatting Toolbox

RawShooter | premium 2006 provides a great new toolbox to help you format your images. Got a horizon that is not as straight as you would like? Using the new horizon straighten tool this is a thing of the past, just one click and it will be straightened for you. The image rotation tool allows arbitrary rotation as required. The new CropTool allows cropping of an image either to set aspect ratios or completely freeform; you can also create and save your own aspect ratios and use an on-screen grid for composition. These tools are the most sophisticated to have ever been included in any RAW workflow application and are seamlessly integrated into the RawShooter | Premium 2006 application.

Magnifier

This new tool allows a small section of a selected image to be magnified on screen and works in the Slideshow and Dynamic Preview applications. This provides a simple, quick method of determining sharpness for a single image and can also be used to quickly assess the effect of corrections such as noise suppression and sharpening.

FastProof Mode

Made all your corrections and need to get images to clients / family / friends in a hurry? Simply use the amazing FastProof mode, either before or after colour correction, and create email sized JPEGs at blazing speed. You can specify output options such as size, dpi and sharpening preferences, then watch as RawShooter premium | 2006 creates them in the blink of an eye.

Batch Rename

This feature allows you to rename groups of RAW images either at the download stage or after editing. Options allow you to specify your own renaming format and a sequence number if required. This sequence number is updated with the last number in the renaming sequence and saved across product closure. When the batch rename feature is next used the new value of the sequence number is displayed, along with the format, thus saving you having to remember it.

Interpolation

If you are shooting for prints, or submitting to an agency, you will often need a larger image than your DSLR can actually produce. Using proprietary algorithms, RawShooter | premium2006 now provides the capability for re-sizing an image up to 300% of its default value. This allows even more capability to be performed at the RAW stage of a workflow, which results in images of the utmost quality.

Extended Colour Support

The colour profiles for several DSLRs have been fine tuned to provide even more accurate colour rendition and shadow detail.

Additional Camera RAW Support

Support for several new cameras has been added including the Canon EOS 5D and Canon EOS 1D II N.

Raw Workflow Guide

Written by professional photographer Andy Rouse, this guide takes you through a logical workflow to maximize your usage of RawShooter | premium 2006. This is in response to many requests from users who are new to RAW and need some guidance with the workflow and how to start using the product. Experienced users may also want to quickly view this document as it gives an overview of how all the new features fit into a typical workflow. The User Guide has also been completely updated and revised throughout.

Miscellaneous Features

In addition to the main features listed above, the following has been added to RawShooter | premium 2006:

Enhanced thumbnail appearance – you now have an option to display either the traditional RAW thumbnail view or one with basic EXIF information added (shutter speed, aperture, ISO, camera, focal length).
RGB Readout – allows you to get the RGB values at the exact cursor location.
EXIF display on dynamic preview screen.

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Can you still get the Premium version now or is it only Essentials?

Edited by matthew_h on Friday 21st December 11:52

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Might also be worth mentioning that we prefer the 2005 edition over the 2006... as it has more variables to play with. smile

matthew_h

Original Poster:

575 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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lol, I see.

Is it the Premium edition that you're using or the Essentials version?

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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matthew_h said:
lol, I see.

Is it the Premium edition that you're using or the Essentials version?
Essentials, but I'd rather like to get my grubby paws on the Premium version. smile

Andy M

3,755 posts

290 months

Friday 21st December 2007
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Lightroom every time - it's fantastic!