Argh, should I?
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2jamesl

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245 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Ive been asked to take pictures for the year 10 ball at a local school but I'm not sure i want the responsibility. I have never had to do anything like this before and from what i can see it will be a lot of work. Its a 3 hour job and I'm not sure of the best way to go about printing and taking payments. Should i go for it?

Simpo Two

92,989 posts

295 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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If in doubt be honest about it. If you haven't done anything like it before, tell them. If you're doing it for free, then they can't argue if the results aren't 100% - the 'YGWYPF Rule' applies.

If given that they still want you to do it, then at least you've lost the stress and lowered expectations, and if you do get good results, you win smile

Oh yeah, and shoot RAW because with limited kit you may need all the rabbits you can get.

2jamesl

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Right, RAW it is biggrin how about lighting, what are the bare essentials?

Cheers

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

243 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Flash with diffuser. Bounce it off the ceiling if they're lowish.

Shoot RAW like said.

Lots of memory. Can always delete the shots, but can't retake them very easily.

If it's low light, then a fast lens. Can get a 50mm 1.4 quite cheap cant you (£200ish)?

Try to take a picture of everyone. Maybe have a list of who's who. Who their date is etc...


Personally if it's your prom, then I'd say no and have a fun night. Only get one prom. I never had one.

Last dance with your bird or taking pictures of everyone else's moment? Choice is yours....


David

2jamesl

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Oh no it isn't mine smile

thanks for your tips

NiceCupOfTea

25,607 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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50mm f/1.8 can be had for well under 100 quid, even under 50 quid Canon fitment IIRC.

Is it reportage style or posed?

CarMac

669 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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As above, be honest.

In terms of printing etc. Why not set up a Photobox Pro gallery. Put all the pictures on there and let people decide what they want?

kiwisr

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237 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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If it's posed it's easy. Setup up a mini-studio with a couple of flash units (softboxes), background and just process the couples like a conveyor belt.

That way you can arrive early, set it all up and do some test shots to get the exposure perfect.

Simpo Two

92,989 posts

295 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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kiwisr said:
If it's posed it's easy. Setup up a mini-studio with a couple of flash units (softboxes), background and just process the couples like a conveyor belt.
Yes, but you're assuming he either has that level of kit, or is willing to spend the £500+ it would need.

What do you have in the armoury, OP?

Edited by Simpo Two on Wednesday 23 January 14:30

2jamesl

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Simpo Two said:
kiwisr said:
If it's posed it's easy. Setup up a mini-studio with a couple of flash units (softboxes), background and just process the couples like a conveyor belt.
Yes, but you're assuming he either has that level of kit, or is willing to spend the £500+ it would need.

What do you have in the armoury, OP?

Edited by Simpo Two on Wednesday 23 January 14:30
Quite Right, i dont have the kit. It is posed and all i have is a tripod, and a hot shoe flash. Is that even enough?

cheers

Simpo Two

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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2jamesl said:
Quite Right, i dont have the kit. It is posed and all i have is a tripod, and a hot shoe flash. Is that even enough?
Yes, you just won't get shots like the Korean toddler on the table. It will help enormously if there's a decently low white ceiling and you can bounce the flash off it - to do this your flash will need to be of the 'tilt/swivel' variety. Another option is to use it off-camera (if your kit has that option, either wireless or wired via a PC socket) or try a strap-on diffuser - but personally I don't think they make a lot of difference and I don't want to turn out with a yoghurt pot stuck on my camera!

Failing that you'll just have to blast it direct and as I said before, if they're not paying for it they can hardly complain about the quality of the lighting. I'd also try to get them well forward of any background and use a fairly fast aperture to throw it out of focus.

If the shooting location is fixed, then see if you can spend a minute practicing on somebody first to get your settings right, then you can bosh the couples through quite fast (check for closed eyes) and they should be impressed. Watch for white collars burning out. Know your kit and be confident.

2jamesl

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Simpo Two said:
2jamesl said:
Quite Right, i dont have the kit. It is posed and all i have is a tripod, and a hot shoe flash. Is that even enough?
Yes, you just won't get shots like the Korean toddler on the table. It will help enormously if there's a decently low white ceiling and you can bounce the flash off it - to do this your flash will need to be of the 'tilt/swivel' variety. Another option is to use it off-camera (if your kit has that option, either wireless or wired via a PC socket) or try a strap-on diffuser - but personally I don't think they make a lot of difference and I don't want to turn out with a yoghurt pot stuck on my camera!

Failing that you'll just have to blast it direct and as I said before, if they're not paying for it they can hardly complain about the quality of the lighting. I'd also try to get them well forward of any background and use a fairly fast aperture to throw it out of focus.

If the shooting location is fixed, then see if you can spend a minute practicing on somebody first to get your settings right, then you can bosh the couples through quite fast (check for closed eyes) and they should be impressed. Watch for white collars burning out. Know your kit and be confident.
Thanks ever so much, will hopefully get to the location before hand. We are charging, just to cover the printing costs and a tiny tiny profit margin. Me and one other person, hes controlling the finance smile Bouncing, i shall try it!

cheers

CarMac

669 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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As mentioned above and as with wedding photography, try and get to the venue before the event and suss it out. YOu tell them where you want to take the pictures and take some test shots to get the settings just about right.

Go for it.....it will be good experience for you biggrin

2jamesl

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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CarMac said:
As mentioned above and as with wedding photography, try and get to the venue before the event and suss it out. YOu tell them where you want to take the pictures and take some test shots to get the settings just about right.

Go for it.....it will be good experience for you biggrin
Thanks mate smile