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x5x3

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2,437 posts

283 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Ignoring the costs, what will be the performance difference be between the Canon 100-400 and the new 70-200 F2.8 IS with the 2x extender.

All thoughts appreciated,

kybo

1,166 posts

225 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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I'm no expert and i wouldn't say no to either lens but I think I'd go for the faster glass.

Taken from a Nikon forum post, but probably relevant to some degree:

"Its a trade off. Use of a 2X TC will decrease the light to the sensor by 4X and affect angular resolution of the image by 2X as well as magnify any abberations of the optical system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleconverter 

Generally, the better the IQ of the base lens, the less the use of a TC will affect the combo's IQ. Many with your lens have reported minimal IQ impact with the use of a 1.4X TC, some noticible degradation with a 1.7X TC and definite IQ degradation with a 2X TC.

Its been my experience that an original image with no TC can have its FOV cropped by between 30% - 50% before IQ degradatio0n really sets in. The 30% limit applies to images with consumer quality glass; the 50% limit to quality glass such as yours.

Its probable that cropping your original image will yield better IQ than the same FOV when using a 2X TC in most all cases.

My suggestion is to consider a 1.4X TC and, if needed/desired, crop from there rather than using a 2X TC..."

Sorry I can't be any more specific.
HTH
Scott

cbcbcb

270 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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If you want 300-400 (as per comparison) the 100-400 is better.

Unfortunatly it was also subject to quite a variance in production (now possibly solved) but with individual examples being as sharp (or nearly) as the 400f5.6 prime, others being woefull.

Its IS is also old school 2 stop - and the push pull design is mostly hated (though Ilike the very quick zoom ability) - it has many fans for airshow shooting.

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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The 100-400 is a stunning lens, and the push pull is brilliant! I cannot fault the lenswink

Jenx

11,579 posts

272 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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You'de have to wrestle my 100-400 from my broken and bleeding fingers before I'd swap it for a 70-210 and 2X converter.

Martin.

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

297 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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I'm not a Canon shooter, but I have recently acquired a SIgma 70-200 f2.8 and a 2x teleconverter.

I love the speed & sharpness of the lens wide open for portrait stuff and the ability to pop a t/c on and use it for motorsports etc was a winner for me.

This was snapped at Stansted whilst waiting to collect wifey. Taken with the Sigma & 2x t/c combo...seems sharp enough to me, and no problems with AF.



Chris

x5x3

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Monday 26th May 2008
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cbcbcb said:
thanks, not seen that - I liked the last line of that "You really need to have both of these lenses for maximum versatility and image quality". idea

Jenx said:
You'de have to wrestle my 100-400 from my broken and bleeding fingers before I'd swap it for a 70-210 and 2X converter.

Martin.
I take it you prefer the 100-400 then? smile

chris.mapey said:
I'm not a Canon shooter, but I have recently acquired a SIgma 70-200 f2.8 and a 2x teleconverter.

I love the speed & sharpness of the lens wide open for portrait stuff and the ability to pop a t/c on and use it for motorsports etc was a winner for me.

This was snapped at Stansted whilst waiting to collect wifey. Taken with the Sigma & 2x t/c combo...seems sharp enough to me, and no problems with AF.



Chris
The flexibility of the combo seems good to me, which is why I asked the question originally, I would say that I do quite a bit of portrait, some landscape and some distance/motorsport.

This is going to be a tricky decision, the 100-400 is lighter (630 v 1570) and smaller (76.5x142.8mm v 86.2x197mm) plus there is the 2x to carry around with the 70-200. Plus looking around the 100-400 is about £800 against £1200 or so for the 70-200 combo.

Time to borrow the 100-400 from a friend for a weekend I think and see how I get on!


chris.mapey

4,778 posts

297 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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Not wishing to thriw the cat amongst the pigeons, but how about the same set up I have - using Sigma lens & t/c.

Mine came in at a total of £630 new from Kerso... (Lens was £490 and the t/c was £129)

Worth thinking about (albeit with no IS - but I use a D300 and can up the ISO if needed)

HTH

Chris

Jenx

11,579 posts

272 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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x5x3 said:
Jenx said:
You'de have to wrestle my 100-400 from my broken and bleeding fingers before I'd swap it for a 70-210 and 2X converter.

Martin.
I take it you prefer the 100-400 then? smile
I've used both on the same day (dull) on the inside of Druids at Brands Hatch...couldn't wait to give Joust his lens back so I could get some good shotswink