Barcelona F1 (and 1st use of 50D)....pic heavy

[Bernie-the-bolt]

Had a great weekend away with warm sunshine, loads of beer and good food and my new toy (50d) - by god do these cars move fast though!

Took about 1500 photo's most of which were pretty crap but I really got on with the camera and had some good results.

Link here to my flickr page - photo's are still currently uploading.

C&C most welcome











Finished the weekend by spending time on the aircraft talking to Martin Brundle and the Team Manager from Red Bull (Jonathan Wheatley) who must get bored stless of stupid questions from fans of the sport, but in fairness were both very pleasant and chatty.

Edited by Bernie-the-bolt on Tuesday 12th May 09:17

[Scott328i]

Not really any blur, look a bit snapshot to be honest.

Scott

[Bernie-the-bolt]

Scott328i said:

Not really any blur, look a bit snapshot to be honest.

Scott

Thanks Scott.

I agree and would have liked to have a much slower shutter speed but I was really struggling to get half decent results (practice panning I guess!). I was using anything from 1/320 up to 1/1000 - what would you suggest?

Photography is of course like golf - you have to practice in order to see the results!

[SamHH]

Bernie-the-bolt said:

Finished the weekend by spending time on the aircraft talking to Martin Brundle and the Team Manager from Red Bull (Jonathan Wheatley) who must get bored stless of stupid questions from fans of the sport, but in fairness were both very pleasant and chatty.

How did you manage that? Did you have a paddock pass?

Agree with Scott that you need to use a much slower shutter speed on the panning photos, say 1/60.

[Bernie-the-bolt]

SamHH said:

Bernie-the-bolt said:

Finished the weekend by spending time on the aircraft talking to Martin Brundle and the Team Manager from Red Bull (Jonathan Wheatley) who must get bored stless of stupid questions from fans of the sport, but in fairness were both very pleasant and chatty.

How did you manage that? Did you have a paddock pass?

Agree with Scott that you need to use a much slower shutter speed on the panning photos, say 1/60.

I was waiting in a queue to board my sleezy-jet flight home and it was full of Red Bull mechanics and Martin Brundle. Ever the salesman I simply went over and started talking to Martin breaking the ice by mentioning I have been invited to an F2 test day at Silverstone next Monday and would he still be there? That did the trick and the rest is history as they say. I then sat on the plane next to Jonathan and again just got talking to him (I had no idea who he was btw!) - no points for being quiet in this world

[trackdemon]

I'm just surprised they were using easyjet!

[jon-]

trackdemon said:

I'm just surprised they were using easyjet!

Most of the Brawn team, including Ross Brawn were on easyjet back too.

http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/in-the-e...

[Bernie-the-bolt]

According to the boss, it would be a logistical nightmare and expensive job to use private aircraft, so you get out anyway you can over a couple of days.

[Scott328i]

1/125 for F1 and Motorbikes is around the norm ...

[Rob13]

1/125? Blimey I thought 1/400 seemed slow. The main issue I have is when trying to track, i end up getting blur on the subject as well as the background!

Are any of those post processed or are they straight out of the camera?

[trackdemon]

There is no set shutter speed as it depends on distance from subject, speed of subject, focal length, angle of attack and of course what look are you striving for?

I would say that for motion panning anything faster than 1/500 will give pretty dull results as you will nearly freeze the subject, I shot stuff as slow as 1/30 @ the FIA GT's the other w/e and although hit rate dips the ones which work look good.

[Bernie-the-bolt]

Rob13 said:

Are any of those post processed or are they straight out of the camera?

All I have done is a tiny bit of unsharp mask and then reduced noise in Noisewear using default setting.

[4hero]

Nice crisp shots there!

As for panning, anywhere from 1/40th to 1/125th for blur, takes some practice though.

Edited by 4hero on Tuesday 12th May 21:15

[Alfie Noakes]

Shutter speed will be dependent on the focal length to some extent. To get a bit of blur I'd say 1:1 to 2:1.

That is 100mm FL (in old money (24x36 film)) 1/50 to 1/100. But you might get some blurring of the car at that. A bit faster if you want just the background blurred.

I'll see if I have some examples.

[Alfie Noakes]

That is 1/60 at f8 at max zoom 28.8mm (about 100mm in 35mm terms I think)

[Bernie-the-bolt]

This was taken this week

Exposure:0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture: f/14.0
Focal Length: 190 mm

[Bernie-the-bolt]

These were taken this week:

Exposure: 0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture: f/14.0
Focal Length: 190 mm



Exposure: 0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture: f/14.0
Focal Length: 70 mm



Both seem OK to me.

[LongQ]

[havoc]

Alfie Noakes said:

Shutter speed will be dependent on the focal length to some extent. To get a bit of blur I'd say 1:1 to 2:1.

That is 100mm FL (in old money (24x36 film)) 1/50 to 1/100. But you might get some blurring of the car at that. A bit faster if you want just the background blurred.

I'll see if I have some examples.

So with a D-SLR that's ~150mm FL = 1/50 or 1/100 (so a shutter-speed of 1/3 to 2/3 of FL). I'd suggest you need to be good to achieve that consistently...my best are probably all at over 50% FL, agree with your comment about car-blur (which some like, I don't usually).

These two qualify at the 'quick' end of that scale, and give plenty of blur:-
1/125 @ 190mm


1/125 @ 160mm




And to break with the rule, if you've got the right conditions a 'quicker' shutter speed can still work for you:
1/160 @ 100mm


1/200 @ 70mm

[Bernie-the-bolt]

Hi Guys...

Can I refer any more panning/motorsport photos with explanations to this thread here please.

Thanks