Is there anything to rival the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4?
Discussion
Looking at getting a general walk about lens. I don't want to spend more than £800 or so, which the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 just about fits in to.
I rented this lens last year for a trip to New York and was extremely impressed with it's performance, the only issue is it's not that fast.
I don't mind dropping IS for speed if there's another one in the Canon range I've overlooked as a decent all purpose bit of glass.
I rented this lens last year for a trip to New York and was extremely impressed with it's performance, the only issue is it's not that fast.
I don't mind dropping IS for speed if there's another one in the Canon range I've overlooked as a decent all purpose bit of glass.
I think once you've used L glass there is no going back
I don't know how you will cope at the 24mm end on a crop body though, I guess you already have something wider in the form of a kit lens if you need it.
I've deciided I never need to go wider that 24mm on the 5D, I bought a 17-40mm L last year but I've only used it a couple of times, I'm going to dust it off and sell it I think.
I don't know how you will cope at the 24mm end on a crop body though, I guess you already have something wider in the form of a kit lens if you need it. I've deciided I never need to go wider that 24mm on the 5D, I bought a 17-40mm L last year but I've only used it a couple of times, I'm going to dust it off and sell it I think.
It was said to me on PH that the 24-105 is a nice lens, but not necessarily much better than a decent 28-135IS (my question was about whether it was a worthy upgrade).
That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!
That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!

I'll go against the grain. I have a 24-105L and am distinctly unimpressed. It's never given me the wow i expected from L glass. Maybe it's my 1d that's not right but it steadfastly refuses to be sharp at any point thoughout the lens at any aperture with is on or off. I would suggest it's a "soft copy" but that's the kind of thing you get with cheap Sigmas not with L, surely?
agent006 said:
I'll go against the grain. I have a 24-105L and am distinctly unimpressed. It's never given me the wow i expected from L glass. Maybe it's my 1d that's not right but it steadfastly refuses to be sharp at any point thoughout the lens at any aperture with is on or off. I would suggest it's a "soft copy" but that's the kind of thing you get with cheap Sigmas not with L, surely?
I thought my 24-70L was rubbish, then i realized i had back focusing problem with my body. have you tested it against another lens of the same focal length? I ended up selling mine and buying some primes instead. quite fancy another though to be honest.
ETA: OP what can you shoot with 105 that you can't shoot with 70? I'd be looking at the 2.8
Edited by Scho on Wednesday 13th May 08:42
Scho said:
ETA: OP what can you shoot with 105 that you can't shoot with 70? I'd be looking at the 2.8
By the same regard what can I shoot at 70 that I can't shoot with my nifty 50 prime 
The Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 is a much more pleasing price, and the constant f2.8 very attractive. I'm sure it's no L glass, but it should beat the kit lens the camera came with! I'll look into it some more.
LukeBird said:
It was said to me on PH that the 24-105 is a nice lens, but not necessarily much better than a decent 28-135IS (my question was about whether it was a worthy upgrade).
That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!
I used to love my 28-135 when I had it, then I upgraded to 24-105. I thought I'd miss the reach but I didn't. It's got all the advantages of L lens, in particular being pin-sharp wide open, which makes a lot of difference when it matters, and much better AF too. Definitely recommend it (if you can justify the price). That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!

Gemm said:
LukeBird said:
It was said to me on PH that the 24-105 is a nice lens, but not necessarily much better than a decent 28-135IS (my question was about whether it was a worthy upgrade).
That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!
I used to love my 28-135 when I had it, then I upgraded to 24-105. I thought I'd miss the reach but I didn't. It's got all the advantages of L lens, in particular being pin-sharp wide open, which makes a lot of difference when it matters, and much better AF too. Definitely recommend it (if you can justify the price). That's 3.5-5.6, so a touch faster at the wide, and I think at 105mm it's 4.5, so a touch slower than the F4 at it's (the 24.105) widest. I know it's not L, but it's a lovely bit of glass! Not quite as sharp as my 70-200 f4, but still very nice!

To be honest there are other things i'd want sooner before I considered upgrading the 28-135 (which I'm very happy with), a 17-55 2.8 for instance!

Scho said:
I thought my 24-70L was rubbish, then i realized i had back focusing problem with my body. have you tested it against another lens of the same focal length?
I don't have the problem with my 70-300, and the Stigma 17-55 the L replaced didn't suffer (but was really crap so probably didn't show up). I can feel another thread coming on.Gassing Station | Photography & Video | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff



