has anyone seen the like of this camera before?
has anyone seen the like of this camera before?
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Bozwell

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209 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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i guess it is for 3D images with a viewer but it is home made using two cameras joind in the middle. one upside down. there is mechanisms to focus and zoom both cameras at the same time. the winders need to be used to get both cameras to operate but they dont wind the film. one rewinder has been modified to wind the film.












there is one button to press for both halfs to take a picture simultaniously. i shall get a film to see if it still works

Simpo Two

92,870 posts

295 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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That's pretty crazy!

My father attempted a similar thing (stereo pairs) but more easily using a Yashica-D TLR and a special sliding tripod mount so you could take one picture from the left, and the next from the right. Then you pasted the pairs of prints side by side onto card and put them in a viewer which he designed and built. I still have it.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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wow

Mini1275

11,098 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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Simpo Two said:
That's pretty crazy!

My father attempted a similar thing (stereo pairs) but more easily using a Yashica-D TLR and a special sliding tripod mount so you could take one picture from the left, and the next from the right. Then you pasted the pairs of prints side by side onto card and put them in a viewer which he designed and built. I still have it.
WOW he must be pretty clever - it is a funny looking thing

Nero601

1,566 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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am i the only one thinking what a waste of a spotmatic ?

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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^ No, made even worse because they destroyed two Spotmatics!!!!!

YB

Stickers

1,387 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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Simpo Two said:
That's pretty crazy!

My father attempted a similar thing (stereo pairs) but more easily using a Yashica-D TLR and a special sliding tripod mount so you could take one picture from the left, and the next from the right. Then you pasted the pairs of prints side by side onto card and put them in a viewer which he designed and built. I still have it.


25 years ago a friend of mine attempted a similar project using a Canon A1 FD - except that he fabricated his own sliding rail & used E6 (50 asa Fuji Velvia) - viewed once processed through a pair of single slide mounts that he had cleverly fashioned into what I can only describe as a crude pair of spectacles, because that's exactly what he had used, a pair of his granfathers glasses with the lenses poked out.

They looked so stupid, I remember laughing so hard that I was unable to see any of the image at first due to the tears. I'm reminded of them each time I see a movie with soldiers wearing night vision goggles.

In hindsight, the images taken were of outstanding quality & quite took my breath away when viewed in his device.


tog

4,957 posts

258 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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That's great! Much better than moving the camera between shots as you can photograph moving subjects with this. It's not a waste of two spotmatics - it's far cooler, and probably worth more than two Spotmatics now as well.

Simpo Two

92,870 posts

295 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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tog said:
That's great! Much better than moving the camera between shots as you can photograph moving subjects with this.
Very true - the sliding mount idea only works with static subjects.

Google Images for 'stereo camera' brings up some interesting beasts:



nuts

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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tog said:
It's not a waste of two spotmatics - it's far cooler, and probably worth more than two Spotmatics now as well.
That's highly unlikely considering it's a home bodge (and looks it) with no particular history or provenance. So, where is the evidence of it's 'coolness', apart from your view and therefore it's purported added value?

YB


Bozwell

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209 posts

213 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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well checking on ebay there are loads of spotmatics for around £20

hardly rare are they.

Bozwell

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213 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Yellabelly said:
considering it's a home bodge (and looks it) with no particular history or provenance. So, where is the evidence of it's 'coolness',

YB
why so bitter? for a 'home bodge' it looks bloody good. only when i manage to get some pictures shall we see how good or bad it is (or my photography)

looks a lot tidier without the viewfinder window cover (i think added later as it is not as good as the rest of the camera)




tog

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258 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Yellabelly said:
tog said:
It's not a waste of two spotmatics - it's far cooler, and probably worth more than two Spotmatics now as well.
That's highly unlikely considering it's a home bodge (and looks it) with no particular history or provenance. So, where is the evidence of it's 'coolness', apart from your view and therefore it's purported added value?

YB
Spotmatics are not exactly rare or valuable, and this, while clearly home made, looks like it was made carefully and with diligence by someone with some skill and an understanding of what they were doing. It doesn't look bodged. The thing which makes it cooler, in my view, is that this demonstrates someone's ingenuity to create something that is otherwise unobtainable and greater than the sum of its parts. It has functional integrity, if not aesthetic, and, given that it is a specialist tool, it doesn't have to look anything different to what is required to make it work. (This assessment is obviously without having seen or handled the camera - if it is flimsy, wobbly and demonstrably rubbish then clearly I take it all back!)

I guessed "probably worth" more than two Spotmatics, but having checked Ebay I concede that "worth at least as much as" two Spotmatics may be fairer, assuming it is in working order. To make one yourself would obviously require two Spotmatics and the time, skill and parts to join them. What's that worth?

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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How does it work - does it put the one image (from both lenses) on to one shot?

tog

4,957 posts

258 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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james_tigerwoods said:
How does it work - does it put the one image (from both lenses) on to one shot?
No, it gives you two images from slightly different viewpoints a couple of inches apart. You then print them out and look at them through a stereo viewer like this, which lets each eye see a different image, which gives the 3-D effect.



Edited by tog on Friday 19th June 09:37

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Have a look in the "Animated GIF" thread in the Lounge - there's a few examples of the results.

ETA cos it's a huge thread :









Edited by Famous Graham on Friday 19th June 10:13

tog

4,957 posts

258 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Famous Graham said:
"Animated GIF"
That's quite clever! A pretty good 3D effect, if not exactly restful to look at... smile

Stickers

1,387 posts

229 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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It is truly fantastic when you realise the difference & amount of individual information the brain has to cope with from each of our eyes that allow us to view the world that we see around - along with & at the same time, controling everything else that's going on in our bodies!

This is without even considering eye movement and the speed at which the eyes have to perform such complex tasks as focusing & adjusting for a multitude of different lighting conditions - our sense of sight has to be our most treasured possesion & one that most simply take for granted as they go about their day to day business.


Simpo Two

92,870 posts

295 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Note that a two-frame GIF isn't really what stereo viewing is all about!

As usual, the Victorians got there first:



The brain merges the two flat images into a single 3-D one.

However, film advance in the twin Pentax jobbie must have been interesting - maybe three wind-ons with the lens caps on to get clear of the exposed film?

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

283 months

Saturday 20th June 2009
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Boswell, there was nothing bitter in my reply just an agreement with another poster who also thought it a waste and in reply to tog I looked at it as a bodge.
It may well be a clever bodge, we can await your photos but to me it looks a bodge.

Where do we then get in either of my posts any reference to Spotmatics rarity or value?

As for it being 'something that is otherwise unobtainable and greater than the sum of its parts' that is cr-p, there are and have been stereo cameras available
My reply is based on the fact that as a callow 17 year old the Spotmatic was a must have that I could not afford, so I bought a Pentax S2. To see the iconic Pentax of it's day in that state makes it a bodge in my eyes. I was later fortunate enough to be able to afford a Pentax ME Super both cameras are still with me so there is a degree of sentimentality also.
If it had been Olympus OM10s or Canon A1s I would quite likely have passed it by!

It will be interesting to see the output and to see if that long back plate is light sealed.

YB