The wifes BMW rig shot
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01101001

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222 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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more HERE

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Nice. Home made rig?

01101001

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123 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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home madeish...4x4 foot aluminum poles, Manfrotto cups, superclamps and a magic arm.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Glad to see you've got a longer rig now, this looks like a good effort.

I'm pretty much certain I'm going to change to a single boom style arm for my rig, the three suction cup method is too much hassle I'm finding.


Snapper7

990 posts

289 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Any pictures showing the rig?

01101001

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222 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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snapper no i have not taken any of the rig yet...but its just standard stuff

Snapper7

990 posts

289 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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It would be interesting to see what you did because there is a number of different set ups.

Bob_Defly

5,876 posts

261 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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Looks great Ian!

MudwiG

283 posts

294 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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Looks like Cox Green area to me?

_dobbo_

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278 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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Pretty sure his rig looks roughly the same as mine:


ROADRUNNER3

480 posts

252 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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That looks like the Manfrotto suction pad system - I'm not sure the poles are quite sturdy enough, but quite pleased with my early experiments last week.....





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Edited by ROADRUNNER3 on Friday 24th July 11:01

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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hey Tim! That's exactly the system I got, but I sourced longer poles from a metals supplier.

Stability is all about cup placement in my experience, and on some cars it's very hard to get right.

I'm going to look into changing to a single box section boom arm, and somehow utilising my existing suction cups to try to save a bit of money.


Snapper7

990 posts

289 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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Out of interest where did you get your rig from and how much did it cost.

Have you had to paint out the rig from the picture in photoshop?

Edited by Snapper7 on Friday 24th July 13:06

_dobbo_

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278 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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Mine came from b-hague and cost about £300. I'm positive it can be done better for much less money.

With this rig you have to take a static without the rig in then use photoshop to merge the two photos. This can be quite hard. Things to remember are to fix the white balance and the exposure so the colours match as much as possible.

The way I do this is to setup a tripod as close to the camera as I can – I then move the camera onto the tripod, remove the rig from the car, reposition the camera using the viewfinder to get it as close as I can then take a collection of photos.

In post processing I select the photo which is closest in colour and exposure to the rig shot, select the area I need to copy in, feather the selection then copy it into the rig shot.

Then it’s a case of using the transform tools to get it looking just right, and then cloning out any other areas of the rig.

I’d advise you to go over to POTN and look at the rig thread there, loads of information which I wish I’d seen before I bought mine!

Snapper7

990 posts

289 months

Saturday 25th July 2009
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Thanks for that, it was very interesting, I will look at getting a rig from B-hague, Although I noted that the most successful pictures were the one where a more substantial pole was used.

Do you fine the Pole from B-hague was sturdy enough?

I was also wondering if the Telescopic Rig Pole was long enough as well, because on the Tim Wallace Pictures taken using it, it looks like he needed a bit of extra distance to avoid some of the distortion. See: http://www.cameragrip.co.uk/acatalog/hague_sm11_ca...

What do you think?

Emeye

9,781 posts

253 months

Saturday 25th July 2009
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The low down ferarri shot is my fav. smile

_dobbo_

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278 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Snapper7 said:
That's definitely the right way to go (IMO) as far as rig design is concerned. But that pole looks a bit short to me.

I'd suggest buying the cups and clamps, and somehow sourcing some sort of box or round section aluminium for the pole section.

The longer you go the more you will need to brace it, I've seen wires used to good effect for exactly that.

Ultimately it's a bit of an engineering guessing game and chances are you'll end up spending money you could have avoided but there is little or no help available as a lot of photographers are incredibly precious about sharing their rig design. Knowing a fabricator or someone who can weld aluminium would be awesome. Sadly I know neither.


01101001

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123 posts

222 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Here is a photo with the rig still in.



more HERE

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Hi Ian,

Some nice shots...

I'm a pro 3d CGi Artist and I specialise in Automotive CGi...
Take a look at some of my work (here: Gallen's CG Society profile and contact details Gallen's Linkedin profile)...

My Aston Martin shot has just been on the rear cover of 3DWorld Magazine, Aug 2009 - Dead chuffed!

Did you build the rig yourself?

Gallen.

Edited by Gallen on Friday 31st July 15:00

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Gallen said:
Hi Ian,

Some nice shots...

I'm a pro 3d CGi Artist and I specialise in Automotive CGi...
Take a look at some of my work (here: Gallen's CG Society profile and contact details Gallen's Linkedin profile)...

My Aston Martin shot has just been on the rear cover of 3DWorld Magazine, Aug 2009 - Dead chuffed!

Did you build the rig yourself?

Gallen.

Edited by Gallen on Friday 31st July 15:00


So that's pure CG?