How many pictures does it take to get used to a new camera?
How many pictures does it take to get used to a new camera?
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ian in lancs

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3,843 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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I'm still learning ow my D300s performs in different conditions after 5000 pictures and its got me wondering how long it takes to experiment and settle down the settings and controls to intuitively get what we want out of the camera. I'll start the bidding with 5,000 pictures!

Lambochick

1,462 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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2 or 3. Apart from the video capability (which I'm not fussed about using, and have turned off) my new camera is very similar to my old camera.

jon-

16,534 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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Ken Rockwell makes the new camera get used to him...

andy-xr

13,204 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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jon- said:
Ken Rockwell makes the new camera get used to him...
hehe


Simpo Two

89,589 posts

282 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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Depends what you're coming from. D70 to D200 was very easy - in fact I took it straight off to do a wedding the next weekend.

d1d215

266 posts

192 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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jon- said:
Ken Rockwell makes the new camera get used to him...
rofl only if the camera isn't called - Chuck Noris.

Lois

14,706 posts

269 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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I got my first slr this week. I've played about with a few SLRs in the past so am happy with the basic function but I'm only 80 pics in and don't think I'll be getting the results I want without a course.

ian in lancs

Original Poster:

3,843 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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One thing that caught me out was last week in the studio I was shooting manual at 200 ISO with studio lights. I flipped to programme and messed around with some auto ISO ambient shots and switched it back to the original manual settings with the lights and took a few shots before checking the screen. All over exposed because the camera remembered/retained the 3200ISO - odd!

Also the way the D300 camera handles metering and highlights is much better than the D80. Then there's adobeRGB vs sRGB etc 4 shooting menu's, 4 Custom setting menu's etc.

beano500

20,854 posts

292 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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For Professionals 9 shots - i.e. about 1 second.

For the rest of us mere mortals, about 8,000 - 3 months......

Simpo Two

89,589 posts

282 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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ian in lancs said:
One thing that caught me out was last week in the studio I was shooting manual at 200 ISO with studio lights. I flipped to programme and messed around with some auto ISO ambient shots and switched it back to the original manual settings with the lights and took a few shots before checking the screen. All over exposed because the camera remembered/retained the 3200ISO - odd!

Also the way the D300 camera handles metering and highlights is much better than the D80. Then there's adobeRGB vs sRGB etc 4 shooting menu's, 4 Custom setting menu's etc.
One thing that can make life easier is to ignore all the strap-on clutter that just gets in between you and taking the picture. Auto-ISO, shooting menus, custom settings etc all look great until you forget about them and then they bite you in the bum. I've tried them and rapidly discarded them because I like to know what my camera's doing - once it starts doing too much without telling you you're no longer in control. Well that's my 4p, YMMV of course.

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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ian in lancs said:
I'm still learning ow my D300s performs in different conditions after 5000 pictures and its got me wondering how long it takes to experiment and settle down the settings and controls to intuitively get what we want out of the camera. I'll start the bidding with 5,000 pictures!
it takes about 5 minutes. You find the mode you use the most, take some bracketed shots to see how the exposure works compared to what you want. The old 5d I'd set to -1/3rd of an ev to get a more natural exposure.

The rest works from that point. Oh then you just piss around with the iso at night to learn the usable ISO limit for quality

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime

Olivero

2,152 posts

226 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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jon- said:
Ken Rockwell makes the new camera get used to him...
It is not that I am calling him a talent less fk-wit hack but...

Olivero

2,152 posts

226 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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ian in lancs said:
I'm still learning ow my D300s performs in different conditions after 5000 pictures and its got me wondering how long it takes to experiment and settle down the settings and controls to intuitively get what we want out of the camera. I'll start the bidding with 5,000 pictures!
When I first got my D300 I read everything I could get my hands on. http://www.nikonians.org proved to be just about the best forum out there. I am not sure what they are up to now, but someone had posted a long setup spreadsheet for the D300.
I can recommend shooting RAW, ISO 200 is better than 100 (with the right light) make the back one spot darker, shooting compressed is fine, only use A or M.

Ed_P

701 posts

286 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime
I think that's a bit harsh. Only took me half a lifetime ...

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

227 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Ed_P said:
stigmundfreud said:
now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime
I think that's a bit harsh. Only took me half a lifetime ...
Which half though?

jon-

16,534 posts

233 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
Ed_P said:
stigmundfreud said:
now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime
I think that's a bit harsh. Only took me half a lifetime ...
Which half though?
I find the master controller on the 580exII quite intuitive. According to posts on the internet that means I either

a) designed it
b) am a massive geek
or
c) am omnipotent

It's C

Ed_P

701 posts

286 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
Ed_P said:
stigmundfreud said:
now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime
I think that's a bit harsh. Only took me half a lifetime ...
Which half though?
It takes quite a bit of time too, determining whether in fact you have learned it all.

It's so liberating though, once you've properly mastered it. So I've heard ...

Simpo Two

89,589 posts

282 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Or d) You hacked into the software and reprogrammed it.

Actually that's b) biggrin


(Anyway, the Canon Speedlight will be nothing compared to a Nikon SB-800 'Hellfather'...)

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 18th January 17:42

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

227 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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jon- said:
stigmundfreud said:
Ed_P said:
stigmundfreud said:
now if the question was speedlights with manual settings with an st-e2 = lifetime
I think that's a bit harsh. Only took me half a lifetime ...
Which half though?
I find the master controller on the 580exII quite intuitive. According to posts on the internet that means I either

a) designed it
b) am a massive geek
or
c) am omnipotent

It's C
tbh I am cheapskate and only have some 430ex's, I might get a 580 one day but I'm really not a flash fan enough to use it