Price for a Nikon D200 ?
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Lucas CAV

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Monday 18th January 2010
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Looking to replace my D70s which needs to be retired and sold before I kill it off completely.

Next purchase will be pre-owned, like the D70s --


I've looked at the likely contenders --

D90 - -too expensive
D80 -- seems promising

but for a bit more -- how about a D200 ?

There's no way I can run to a D300 (!!)


What does the D200 offer, over the D80 -- apart from a metal body .....

And what should I pay for a good secondhand D200 (I have found one but am unsure of its worth...)

cheers for any help.


edit to add -- what about battery life -- my D70s is ancient and has fabulous battery life -- I don't want to buy something that will not last a day or so on a charge....

Edited by Lucas CAV on Monday 18th January 20:19

Busa_Rush

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beano500

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Monday 18th January 2010
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Grays have a D200 for £399. I think that's a bargain from a posh-Nikon-shop!

Battery life should be fine - and the D-xxx range is a step up from the D-xx whatever way you look at it.

Simpo will be along in a minute - his '200 suits him better than a '300 or even a '700. And for about £400 I don't think you can go wrong ('course for about £600 you could probably get a '200 with a brick tied to it - aka the D2X)

Simpo Two

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Monday 18th January 2010
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beano500 said:
Simpo will be along in a minute
No I won't.





Damn.

Lucas CAV said:
Looking to replace my D70s which needs to be retired and sold before I kill it off completely. but for a bit more -- how about a D200 ?

edit to add -- what about battery life -- my D70s is ancient and has fabulous battery life -- I don't want to buy something that will not last a day or so on a charge....
Yep, get one. All the stuff on my website was taken with a D200. The D300 has a stop better high-ISO performance but it costs much more - so for a few hundred pounds you can't go wrong. The D200 gives me the controls I need where I need them - on the top for quick access. It has enough pixels for all normal purposes. It handles well. Faster scrolling would be good but no camera is perfect.

Battery life - I get about 2-300 shots per battery, but I do a LOT of chimping - and when Beano visited Bloke Hall I stole all his batteries anyway so it's not a problem biggrin

gary71

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Monday 18th January 2010
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How does the D200 fair at high ISO? I use a D80 at present and start to twitch if the light forces me anything over about 320! It's the only thing that really frustrates me about the camera.


Edited by gary71 on Monday 18th January 21:17

Lucas CAV

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Monday 18th January 2010
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gary71 said:
How does the D200 fair at high ISO? I use a D80 at present and start to twitch if the light forces me anything over about 320! It's the only thing that really frustrates me about the camera.


Edited by gary71 on Monday 18th January 21:17
depends how you look at your pictures... my D70s is regularly used at 1600......

Certainly at up to 800 I struggle to notice much difference if printing 6x4

Simpo Two

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Monday 18th January 2010
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gary71 said:
How does the D200 fair at high ISO? I use a D80 at present and start to twitch if the light forces me anything over about 320! It's the only thing that really frustrates me about the camera.
My default setting is 320, but I'll take it as far as 800 if essential (eg if I'm already at f2.8 and shutter speed is critical - think dull church and 70-200 lens.). It all depends how much noise you can live with - certainly none of my customers have commented on it in around 35,000 photos (but they are general public and not Vogue picture editors... I think the D80 and D200 are about the same for noise but not sure. Remember - if you look for problems you'll find them wink

Major Bloodnok

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Monday 18th January 2010
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This was taken on a D200 at ISO1600 and has had the exposure pushed up a couple of stops in Lightroom (also subject to lightroom's noise reduction):



Click through for bigger version.

Lucas CAV

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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the d200 is not really looking worth the extra £ over the D80.

300 shots from one battery is not great either.....

beano500

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Well, I am trying to think back to when I had a D70 and was looking to change. The D80 was, IIRC, out of the equation simply for not using CF cards. Plus won't your spare battery also be useful in a D200 (EN-EL3A?).


Or have I got that all wrong?

Lucas CAV

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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beano500 said:
Well, I am trying to think back to when I had a D70 and was looking to change. The D80 was, IIRC, out of the equation simply for not using CF cards. Plus won't your spare battery also be useful in a D200 (EN-EL3A?).


Or have I got that all wrong?
I guess that's my point Beano --- I don't have a spare battery - never needed one.

The D70s battery life is staggering --



Chaps convince me that the D200 is <i>better</i> than the D80 otherwise I might have to be sensible....

edit to add :: why does it matter if the D80 doesn't use CF cards?

Edited by Lucas CAV on Tuesday 19th January 08:01

beano500

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OK - well I wrote out a "must have" list. It's all too easy to say "well X is better than Y".

In this case, I happen to think that a D200 would be better than a D80. Or a D90 would be better than a D200. Then a D300 would be better than a D200 or a D90, and a D3 would be better than a D300 and a D3s would be better than a D3. Hence you better sell your car, mortgage your house and sell your body on the street........


But, in your case, it's down to whether it does all the things that you want it to. Hence I went for a secondhand brick. For my criteria it is damn solid and you can turn it on it's side and you have a shutter button there, plus you can see the four corners of the viewfinder if you wear specs.

In short, the '80 is a step forward from the '70(s), and unless you are surpassing its capabilities it'll be your composition and technique that you need to work on, not more £££s on the camera!

The main reason I haven't got a D3 (yet) is that I can't take better pictures than a D2x is capable of!


You should go for the D80!



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Lucas CAV said:
edit to add :: why does it matter if the D80 doesn't use CF cards?
It doesn't, but haven't you got a bag full of CF cards already - I did with my '70 and I didn't really want to throw them all away. Well, more precisely, you should have heard the names I called Nikon, for what I still see as totally daft and effing ridiculous - if I wanted to run two Nikon bodies I wouldn't want to have to carry two sorts of memory and two types of spare battery!!! banghead

...don't get me started!

Edited by beano500 on Tuesday 19th January 08:12

Lucas CAV

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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beano500 said:
OK - well I wrote out a "must have" list. It's all too easy to say "well X is better than Y".

In this case, I happen to think that a D200 would be better than a D80. Or a D90 would be better than a D200. Then a D300 would be better than a D200 or a D90, and a D3 would be better than a D300 and a D3s would be better than a D3. Hence you better sell your car, mortgage your house and sell your body on the street........


But, in your case, it's down to whether it does all the things that you want it to. Hence I went for a secondhand brick. For my criteria it is damn solid and you can turn it on it's side and you have a shutter button there, plus you can see the four corners of the viewfinder if you wear specs.

In short, the '80 is a step forward from the '70(s), and unless you are surpassing its capabilities it'll be your composition and technique that you need to work on, not more £££s on the camera!

The main reason I haven't got a D3 (yet) is that I can't take better pictures than a D2x is capable of!


You should go for the D80!



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Lucas CAV said:
edit to add :: why does it matter if the D80 doesn't use CF cards?
It doesn't, but haven't you got a bag full of CF cards already - I did with my '70 and I didn't really want to throw them all away. Well, more precisely, you should have heard the names I called Nikon, for what I still see as totally daft and effing ridiculous - if I wanted to run two Nikon bodies I wouldn't want to have to carry two sorts of memory and two types of spare battery!!! banghead

...don't get me started!

Edited by beano500 on Tuesday 19th January 08:12
lol

How many memory cards does a man need?

I have one that I use and a spare.......

beano500

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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About 12.

But only got one spare battery.
Have a second Speedlight too.





And no spare body. eek Feels quite naked to go out without a spare!


Lucas CAV

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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beano500 said:
About 12.

But only got one spare battery.
Have a second Speedlight too.





And no spare body. eek Feels quite naked to go out without a spare!
I'm afraid I like to travel light....

Maybe the D200 isn't for me after all......

beano500

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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hehe

My point would be the same whether a D70 or D3x smile

I'm on the D2x and I think, potentially, either a D200 or a D80 would produce just as good results for me!

Go for the D80, and for peace of mind get a second memory card in case one gives up just when you wnat to take an important shot!!!

d1d215

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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agree. camera doesn't matter that much. ofcourse if you have d700 or d3(x,s) you never look back on the DX. I only miss high iso function, as ISO3200 in FX is amazing ! get lenses

Lucas CAV

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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d1d215 said:
agree. camera doesn't matter that much. ofcourse if you have d700 or d3(x,s) you never look back on the DX. I only miss high iso function, as ISO3200 in FX is amazing ! get lenses
I agree with you -- I have the lenses I want.

The camera is just a tool.

It will get dirty, be left outside, ride in waxed jacket pockets and generally be abused.....

(apologies to "Ian in Lancs" if you are reading but your 10-20mm has a fair bit of mileage on the clock now......)

Ledaig

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Price for a second hand D200 body only?

£250...nope

£350...nope

£500...nope

Just before Christmas I noticed one in a Cambridge photography shop for.....


£850
eek

I didn't pay that much for a body+grip when they came out!!

beano500

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Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Ledaig said:
Can't be right!!
As I said, Grays for £399. So that's complete madness. Are you sure it wasn't in a different currency!!!!!