Nikon D300, skin tones very peach????
Nikon D300, skin tones very peach????
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leeb

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1,074 posts

268 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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anyone else have this issue?

gets bloody frustrating, i have changed white balance settings, and various other efforts, however i stil get really peach skin tones from my D300.

any suggestions?

thanks
Lee

GetCarter

30,907 posts

304 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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Bit obvious, but you don't have the 'picture control' set to 'vivid' do you?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

279 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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'changed white balance settings'? This with RAW? Use a grey card?

leeb

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

268 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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Yes to grey card, but not in raw. i usually shoot as jpg to be honest. Even so, its still not quite right.

I am pretty certain it is not on vivid, not something i have ever changed, but i will look into that. Could be something very simple, well, it probably is something very simple smile

Simpo Two

91,752 posts

290 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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I never liked the 'look' of the results from the D300 or D700. Don't know if it's the sensor being CMOS, but even at default settings JPGs looked too contrasty and saturated, and RAWs processed in Lightroom 2 still didn't look right.

leeb

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

268 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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I have to agree, however £1500 later, that doesnt fill me with happiness smile


SimNugget

580 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Have you tried downloading the D2X Picture Controls for the D300?

http://nikonimglib.com/opc/


Simpo Two

91,752 posts

290 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Good wheeze, but unless I'm much mistaken Picture Controls only apply to JPGs and NEFs processed with NX/NX2.

Edited by Simpo Two on Wednesday 10th March 15:04

SimNugget

580 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Yep that's right, but the OP said they use JPG mostly so I thought it would be a good shot.

Simpo Two

91,752 posts

290 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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SimNugget said:
Yep that's right, but the OP said they use JPG mostly so I thought it would be a good shot.
Fair point, yep.

This reminds me of the Canford Audio 19" rack-mounted straw-clutching rack wot I invented back in the video days. Before an edit you pack it with straws, and then clutch at one every time you're in the st...

Edited by Simpo Two on Wednesday 10th March 15:50

Ledaig

1,801 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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What lens are you using and does it have any filters attached?

These can influence the image with a colour cast which may only be noticable in certain areas such as skin tones.

I know from experience that a couple of sigma EX lenses I have will give an cast when compared to a Nikon near equivalent.

Some filters (UV etc) can also do the same.

ln1234

848 posts

223 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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leeb said:
Yes to grey card, but not in raw. i usually shoot as jpg to be honest. Even so, its still not quite right.

I am pretty certain it is not on vivid, not something i have ever changed, but i will look into that. Could be something very simple, well, it probably is something very simple smile
Why don't you shoot in RAW? CF cards are cheap these days and you get a lot of control with a RAW file that you don't get with the jpgs. I usually use the jpgs for reference and create a new batch from the NEF's if I need to use them anywhere.

Olivero

2,155 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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What lighting conditions are you shooting in? What are WB setting are you using?
Auto is fine outside but really not up to much in anything but natural light.
The vivid setting is too strong for people.
To give you an idea, everything on this website was shot with a D300.
Anything in a studio was done with Bowens strobes with the WB set to a K level.
The ones that are in the Meredith2 folder are with Auto WB outside with no corretion.

http://christieimages.com/

It is also worth making the lcd display on the camera one stop darker.

ian in lancs

3,847 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I have found the Nikon Portrait setting to be good most of the time but in a studio with Bowen lights and Auto WB the results can have a warm cast that just doesn't look right. I've had the same occasionally with SB-600's. The Bowens appear to be a bit warm anyway - about 5000k and the camera WB is better set to 'flash' for consistency and adjust the WB manually post production in PS/LR etc. I used to shoot RAW and JPEG in camera. Now I just shoot RAW, make minor adjustments in LR and create JPEG's using LR. Better results all round. Out of the studio WB seems to be OK.

ian in lancs

3,847 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Good wheeze, but unless I'm much mistaken Picture Controls only apply to JPGs and NEFs processed with NX/NX2.

Edited by Simpo Two on Wednesday 10th March 15:04
Picture controls apply only to the in camera JPEG's not RAW files and are 'understood' / read correctly by PS, PSE and LR too - not just Nikon software.

leeb

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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With regards to the D2x settings, no i havent tried to download those yet, someone else mentioned that. The camera is not set on vivid control, it is on the standard picture control.

WB in studio environment, is manually preset before the start of each shoot, and when shooting outside i generally use the auto WB.

Lens wise i am using the Sigma EX DG range, but i have tried a couple of nikon lens' as well but no change.

Why dont i shoot raw? fair question, i just never have to be honest, possibly due to the time to edit them all, (again i am assuming this is greatly increased using raw) and i have also never needed to recover anything which was so bad a slight jpg tweak couldnt fix it. (yet!) smile

Spoke to a bloke on the nikon stand at focus, he shrugged his shoulders and told me he had never heard of it, send it in for a service. Erm, thanks smile


Simpo Two

91,752 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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All I know is that RAW files from a D200 and processed with C1 Pro look just right (to me anyway, and nobody else has complained). But images from both D300 and D700 (both CMOS sensors) just don't look right to me, and it can't just be white balance. To be frank, I don't know what it is.

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 11th March 09:21

K12beano

20,854 posts

300 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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leeb said:
With regards to the D2x settings, no i havent tried to download those yet, someone else mentioned that. The camera is not set on vivid control, it is on the standard picture control.

WB in studio environment, is manually preset before the start of each shoot, and when shooting outside i generally use the auto WB.
What colour space are you set to?

jon-

16,534 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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leeb said:
Why dont i shoot raw? fair question, i just never have to be honest, possibly due to the time to edit them all, (again i am assuming this is greatly increased using raw)
If you're using something like lightroom there's no difference in RAW workflow, just the extra ability to be able to change the white balance by individual K. Very useful.

leeb

Original Poster:

1,074 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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K12beano said:
leeb said:
With regards to the D2x settings, no i havent tried to download those yet, someone else mentioned that. The camera is not set on vivid control, it is on the standard picture control.

WB in studio environment, is manually preset before the start of each shoot, and when shooting outside i generally use the auto WB.
What colour space are you set to?
Adobe RGB

I will look into lightroom, and i may well embrace this RAW idea. Other than being able to rescue more from each image, forgive my ignorance, but what is the main benefit of me doing this?