Walkabout lens - help please !
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Gents - need some help please 
I am still in the throes of trying to decide what lens to buy next for my 450D (currently have the 18-55 kit lens and am upgrading my 60mm to a 100mm for macro work).
Options are:
1. Go for a do-everything walkabout like a 15-85 which is supposed to be quite good and would be a good upgrade for my 18-55
or
2. Buy something like a 17-40L and also a 70-200L
I quite like option 2 as the 'L' lenses are meant to be really good, but would I find they were both too compromised to use as 'walkabout' lenses - ie for general snapping
Any advice gratefully received as I am totally confused as usual and don't want to fork out on the wrong thing
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I am still in the throes of trying to decide what lens to buy next for my 450D (currently have the 18-55 kit lens and am upgrading my 60mm to a 100mm for macro work).
Options are:
1. Go for a do-everything walkabout like a 15-85 which is supposed to be quite good and would be a good upgrade for my 18-55
or
2. Buy something like a 17-40L and also a 70-200L
I quite like option 2 as the 'L' lenses are meant to be really good, but would I find they were both too compromised to use as 'walkabout' lenses - ie for general snapping

Any advice gratefully received as I am totally confused as usual and don't want to fork out on the wrong thing
!Need a budget really, If you're not scared by L lenses prices then you've got a few more options.
I took a Tamron 18-280 lens with me travelling, got all the zoom range you'd want outside of a Safari. Quality is good, only downside is the autofocus is a bit slow. It is reasonably priced too.
I took a Tamron 18-280 lens with me travelling, got all the zoom range you'd want outside of a Safari. Quality is good, only downside is the autofocus is a bit slow. It is reasonably priced too.
Ah yes budget ! Don't want to spend much more than £500ish on the next purchase but then there will be further budget available after a few months or so - so up to £500 odd per lens, looking to buy up to 3/4 lenses in total (I think ?!)
I just don't want to fork out on a do-it-all lens only to find I end up wanting 'better' lenses which are more specialised ...
I just don't want to fork out on a do-it-all lens only to find I end up wanting 'better' lenses which are more specialised ...
Mike,
I know we have spoken about the 17-85mm IS USM I have, but how about considering the Canon EF-S 18-200 IS Lens (f3.5-5.6). It's just over £300 brand-new.
I tend to use my 28-135mm IS USM lens as a walkabout lens and (if I ever actually get the chance to use the camera) have a separate Sigma 10-20mm for nice landscape shots.
Andy
I know we have spoken about the 17-85mm IS USM I have, but how about considering the Canon EF-S 18-200 IS Lens (f3.5-5.6). It's just over £300 brand-new.
I tend to use my 28-135mm IS USM lens as a walkabout lens and (if I ever actually get the chance to use the camera) have a separate Sigma 10-20mm for nice landscape shots.
Andy
oobster said:
Mike,
I know we have spoken about the 17-85mm IS USM I have, but how about considering the Canon EF-S 18-200 IS Lens (f3.5-5.6). It's just over £300 brand-new.
I tend to use my 28-135mm IS USM lens as a walkabout lens and (if I ever actually get the chance to use the camera) have a separate Sigma 10-20mm for nice landscape shots.
Andy
Thanks Andy I know we have spoken about the 17-85mm IS USM I have, but how about considering the Canon EF-S 18-200 IS Lens (f3.5-5.6). It's just over £300 brand-new.
I tend to use my 28-135mm IS USM lens as a walkabout lens and (if I ever actually get the chance to use the camera) have a separate Sigma 10-20mm for nice landscape shots.
Andy
I know there's always going to be some compromise with this type of lens - it's just a question of how bad it will be ? (Given I am only one step removed from a complete numpty at this stuff - will I even notice !?)
For instance would the 18-200 produce a better/the same/worse result than my 18-55 if both were shooting at 18mm for example ?
Excellent chaps - thankyou 
So maybe a 15-85 as a 'walkabout' is a good first move and then wait and see if I feel the need for a uwa for lanscapes or a telephoto for wildlife - I'm guessing the 15-85 would give better results at the wide end than something like an 18-200 ? Any thoughts ?

So maybe a 15-85 as a 'walkabout' is a good first move and then wait and see if I feel the need for a uwa for lanscapes or a telephoto for wildlife - I'm guessing the 15-85 would give better results at the wide end than something like an 18-200 ? Any thoughts ?
Gents - thankyou all for your assistance 
Decision made - on the basis that the 15-85 is good enough to cover my landscape needs and also mid-range snapping I am going to go for it
I have read a few reviews and they are virtually all very favourable. If I get really keen later in my photography learning curve I can always fork out on a 10-20 or some such and maybe a telephoto will follow in due course.
Small footnote - today my 60mm was picked up by a courier to go to MPB as part exchange for their 100mm
(+ cash obviously
)

Decision made - on the basis that the 15-85 is good enough to cover my landscape needs and also mid-range snapping I am going to go for it

I have read a few reviews and they are virtually all very favourable. If I get really keen later in my photography learning curve I can always fork out on a 10-20 or some such and maybe a telephoto will follow in due course.
Small footnote - today my 60mm was picked up by a courier to go to MPB as part exchange for their 100mm
(+ cash obviously
)dd,
You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....
You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....
dibbly dobbler said:
Decision made - on the basis that the 15-85 is good enough to cover my landscape needs and also mid-range snapping I am going to go for it 
I'm looking at a similar for an 'upgrade' to the kit lens with a bit more reach. The 15-85 does get great reviews as you say, but I can't help thinking it is a bit pricey for what it is, which is why I'm leaning a bit more towards the Sigma 17-70 OS f2.8-4 for a couple of hundred £ less.
LongQ said:
dd,
You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....
You're a bad man LQ You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....

I do fancy one of these but surely an f4 would be acceptable... and who needs IS anyway ?!
Hub said:
dibbly dobbler said:
Decision made - on the basis that the 15-85 is good enough to cover my landscape needs and also mid-range snapping I am going to go for it 
I'm looking at a similar for an 'upgrade' to the kit lens with a bit more reach. The 15-85 does get great reviews as you say, but I can't help thinking it is a bit pricey for what it is, which is why I'm leaning a bit more towards the Sigma 17-70 OS f2.8-4 for a couple of hundred £ less.

dibbly dobbler said:
LongQ said:
dd,
You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....
You're a bad man LQ You will be pleased to know that a proper 70-200 is certainly not a walkabout lens. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
Therefore you have absolutely no need whatsoever to even look at one in a shop. Especially not the f2.8 Mk2.
It's your lucky day really. By not looking at this lens at all, or even reading about it, you have just saved yourself a lot of cash.
For now .....

I do fancy one of these but surely an f4 would be acceptable... and who needs IS anyway ?!
It's best you keep thinking that way. Your bank manager will be happier.
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