Photoshop-how easy to use?
Photoshop-how easy to use?
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sprinter1050

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11,550 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Mornin all.
I have asked a pal of mine to take 3 photos of a particular bed that I sell to go on my web site. The thing is I asked if he can P'shop it to cut the image out of my showroom background & paste into some "generic" type bedroom background. As he's a v. good pal I never asked about cost but I'm sure he said it would take 15 hours (!) work to do that which I thought was a wind-up ( as I also thought about him saying he can charge £50 p hr !)

It is now over a week since he showed me the original photos & I am kinda wondering if he is going to try to charge me for 15 hrs. ( Ok -some "good pal" I know)He does sometimes have an inflated opinion of his skills & abilities.

So, realistically, how long would it take to cut around a digital image of a single bed & paste onto another background? I'm sure this is competent amateur stuff myself but have never used Photoshop.

Original Poster

5,429 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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The only time consuming thing would be finding a decent picture of a bedroom, if you already had that, under 10 minutes to do it properly.

Edited by Original Poster on Tuesday 16th November 10:19

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I guess it depends on how good you are with Photoshop.

Someone with good Photoshop skills would do it in minutes.

I on the other hand would probably take days...

You only need to look at how quickly things are 'Photoshopped' here on PH...






Jakg

4,041 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Depending on the complexity (i.e. slats which are see through) of the image, anywhere from a minute to an hour.

15 hours?! Post the photo up here and im sure someone would do it for free...

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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It is indeed competent amateur stuff rather than high end pro.

Without seeing the photos it's difficult to be sure, but 15 hours it certainly should not be. Even if he was going the whole hog and putting in the bed shadows, reflections, sorting the lighting out etc. etc it probably wouldn't take 15 hours (or 5 if that's for 3).

It sounds 15 times too much to me. Just look at the quick photoshops that guys do on here? 5mins from start to finish - ok some are fairly rough, but it will only take another 30mins to get them perfect.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Oooo, I've moved this to the photography section for you - while you were quite right to put it in computers, I think you'll get a far more specific photoshop response here in the photography forum (where all it's proficient users are) smile

tossbag

1,590 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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If it's a decent photo it would take me about 30 mins.
Half decent photo maybe an hour.
Crappy photo - I wouldn't do it.

Obviuosly this is an estimate going off little info but to put it into perspective for you...

I recently restored an image of a group of army guys taken in around 1914 - the photo had been in the bottom of a drawer for decades and was covered in mould / had nice big white cracks all over it where it had been bent over the years.

Took me around 4 hours to restore it, print it and frame it.

sprinter1050

Original Poster:

11,550 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Thanks all.
You've confirmed what I thought was the reality. There are 3 photos but to give you some idea of what they are I've put one here:



ignore the water leak on the carpet smile

ShadownINja

80,063 posts

311 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I suppose the issue is whether you want it to look photoshopped or not. I know it won't reach the scandalous heights of BP's photoshopping efforts.

ShadownINja

80,063 posts

311 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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tossbag

1,590 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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sprinter1050 said:
Thanks all.
You've confirmed what I thought was the reality. There are 3 photos but to give you some idea of what they are I've put one here:



ignore the water leak on the carpet smile
15 hours?
Sorry man, but unless the guy is actually a snail, no way, no way.

sprinter1050

Original Poster:

11,550 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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hehe
Hmmm not quite the bedroom background that I was looking for !

10JH

2,070 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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15hours is ridiculous. You should ask a PHer to do it!

sprinter1050

Original Poster:

11,550 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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10JH said:
15hours is ridiculous. You should ask a PHer to do it!
Well I guess you're right but as he's an (out of work !) pro photographer he at least has a high end digital camera & (allegedly) the Photoshop skills to do the job.

I didn't like to ask PH guys for the favour.
I'll have to wait & see what he comes up with.

tim-b

1,279 posts

239 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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£50ph is a decent rate for high-end retouching/visualising (i.e. advertising, pos), if he's that good he definitely shouldn't be taking 15 hours.....next time I'll do it for you, 14hrs @ £45ph hehe

sprinter1050

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11,550 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I Love Lamp said:
Does it not depends on how realistic the OP would like the image to display?

It's also pretty hard finding a suitable background which will match the angle, unless you're also expecting 3d rendering and lighting...
I have other original photos with beds "in situ" supplied by a manufacturer that I think could be adapted to include this bed in place of their original. Bit of cloning/cutting/copying & pasting perhaps?

And dibbers006- I like your concept smile. I have had customers threaten to lift the bed up to get teenage sons out of bed (& hide them inside when closed !) but perhaps the spring idea could be marketed biggrin:

Edited by sprinter1050 on Tuesday 16th November 11:28

jimmy156

3,834 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Haha rofl , Love that.

01101001

123 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Is that what you are looking for?
only took 14 hours and I only charge £49 per hour


TonyRPH

13,539 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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01101001 said:
Is that what you are looking for?
only took 14 hours and I only charge £49 per hour

7/10


blod

310 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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sprinter1050 said:
(& hide them inside when closed !)