Roll Bar
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Alan Whitaker

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2,054 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Hi All,
Been thinking of a roll bar in thick wall stainless, I hade some 2" solvent pipe so made a mock up, It will have full hoops , I only used 45 deg fittings as I could not get a hoop in solvent,
Before the funny reply's It is only a plastic mock up, Just need to find someone to make it at a reasonable price.

Alan

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Wrap it in padding and no one will know getmecoat


There ia a company in Southam who bend pipes,(can't find details at the mo.) they made me a pair of "hockey stick" down pipes in stainless although guess a roll bar would need bit heavier gauge ?

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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How high is it? Even right up against the inside of the rear hoop is only marginally high enough. The rear stay low down on the middle section doesn't seem likely to be effective. You really need a rear stay at the highest point, behind the head rest. Are you going to mount the middle section onto the chassis somehow? There is no structure to mount it to in the middle of the tunnel, perhaps you're thinking or mounting it on the top rails?

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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I would try the mock up with the seats in, might be a bit tight unless your vertically challenged. Looks a nice idea though.

Rob

magpies

5,203 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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I have had a roll cage made by geronimo cages in Hartlepool

they will make to drawing but would prefer to make to fit if you take the car/tub to them (I took my tub)

Alan Whitaker

Original Poster:

2,054 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Hi All,
Had the seats in and the roof up sits above the headrest, clearance is ok, I have done the back support over the diff in 10mm plate, just to decide if I need to mount it in the back shelf or where is sits now.


Alan


tvrdavid

105 posts

225 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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There is a very similar roll bar made by TR Lane fabrications for the chim/griff. Think its's about £400. Not sure on suitability for S series given chassis differences though

david

Longers

4,505 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I agree with GreenV8S about the height & angle of the rear stay and the mounting points (or lack of) over the tunnel.

Please don't take this the wrong way but I imagine there is a lot of technical knowledge needed to make an effective roll bar. When such knowledge already exists why try to re-invent the wheel? It might be a bit cheaper but if you want a well designed and effective roll bar I wouldn't have thought it was an area to try and save £s.

Here's a pic of mine made and fitted by Guglielmi Motorsport...


This one is relatively over engineered (it has an FIA stamp!) but was fitted for the previous owner who used the car for competitive sprinting. It also has additional hoops that fit to it using an enormous allen key to give some extra height if the roof is off and you're wearing a helmet.

Tower View (no longer trading) used to sell a simpler version that was made for them by Rollcentre Racing. Might be worth contacting them?

Cheers,
L'rs

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Thats what I want for my Griff, looks good/strong and I want the removable hoops, very nice roll bar.

Do you know how much that cost?

Longers

4,505 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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When I asked about having one made for my last S it was approx £750 I think. To cut a long story short I ended up buying the car owned by Gugi's main mechanic with the bar already fitted rather than have one made for my own car so I'm unsure of the exact cost.

If you give Gugi's a ring mention my name (Ian Longden) and Dave's old S2 and they'll know exactly what you want wink

Alan Whitaker

Original Poster:

2,054 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Hi All

Some good points, no doubt I will have a few more mock ups before I decide on the final design.

Alan

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Longers said:
When I asked about having one made for my last S it was approx £750 I think. To cut a long story short I ended up buying the car owned by Gugi's main mechanic with the bar already fitted rather than have one made for my own car so I'm unsure of the exact cost.

If you give Gugi's a ring mention my name (Ian Longden) and Dave's old S2 and they'll know exactly what you want wink
Will do, though I will get my outriggers done first just to be on the safe side smile

magpies

5,203 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Hi Alan

you can see the plates I've welded to the chassis which is under the rear shelf for my cage to bolt to in the foreground and just see the plates on the outriggers for the cage front legs:


The main hoop bolts to the plate which originally took the seatbelt

OOh and your old rear disc conversion......Many Thanks for it

Alan Whitaker

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2,054 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Hi Mick,
Looks ok, hope to have all the chassis work done this weekend, Just have to sort out the shock mounts when the shocks arrive. glad you like the disc setup.

Alan

Alan Whitaker

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2,054 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Hi All
Just looked at the TR Lane roll bar for the , looks just like what I was thinking of doing.





Just found this one as well



Alan

Edited by Alan Whitaker on Saturday 18th June 06:57

Mr Plow

1,193 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Hi All

Pictures below of a rollcentre bar fitted in my S. I have since had a removal diagonal bar added for strength by the man at TR Lane. When I was there we talked about using mine as a starting point to allow him to start producing a version for the S. If there is enough interest I'm happy to drop my car in so they can take a look. The place is pretty local so not a massive problem?

I will find a picture later with the diagonal added.





Forgot to say - I also had a couple of bracket welded to the rollbar so I could move the top seat belt mount forward.

Edited by Mr Plow on Saturday 18th June 08:27


Edited by Mr Plow on Saturday 18th June 08:27