S2 2.9 1990 Water Pump mounting
S2 2.9 1990 Water Pump mounting
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S2Mike

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179 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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I have just bought my first TVR , an S2 2933cc. 1990 . Put it into my local garage to fix the blowing manifold, who found the water pump was leaking. Turns out the aluminium plate with a hose attachment between the pump and the block is at fault. This I am told is no longer available, can anyone offer ideas or advice please?

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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As long as its the 2.9 its all in one piece, does your garage know what they are doing????

This is the pup

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-PUMP-Ford-Granada-...

I see your in Warwickshire - where abouts exactly? Adrian Venn Adrian@ on here - Exactly TVR in Coventry is 'yer man

BTW there are a number of us in the area, me in Droitwich and others in Redditch, Warwick etc

Edited by Gerald-TVR on Monday 17th October 18:34

TurboTony

908 posts

200 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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I'm 4 miles from Warwick.....

S2Mike

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179 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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I am in Stratford on Avon. I have printed off the eBay details you recommended and will drop them in to garage in morning, thank you for the information, and such a quick response. Will confirm on here the success that I expect. I will definitely be a regular on this forum with such a great support base.
Ta. Mike

S2Mike

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3,065 posts

179 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Hi Guys,
The word is the pump as on ebay that Gerald identified is correct, but there is another housing between the pump and the block with an outlet that leads to the heater matrix, it is this outlet that is crumbling. So the next quiz is where can we obtain one of these?
Mike

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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If you look at this photo here you'll see the water pump - it's the brand new shiny bit, I had only just changed it. That's the bit Gerald identified



Here's the same area with the water pump removed:



You'll see the main hose disconnected at the bottom there, but there are another two hoses (one of them is hidden by the end of the exhaust in that photo) which aren't connected to the pump, but behind it. Those photos, I hope, show that is a separate housing bolted to the front of the engine and cylinder heads.

That's not just a spacer plate, that's the timing chain cover - I don't know if Ford still stock them, but that's what your garage says you need.

It might be worth investigating if it's possible to do an alu-weld repair or something before you go looking for a replacement.

As mentioned earlier, make sure you take advice from people who know what they are talking about.

Edited by tvrgit on Tuesday 18th October 12:10

S2Mike

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179 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Thanks that is excellent, I appreciate the photos. That is the part Ford are saying is not in stock, so may have to go down the aluminium welding route.
Ta Mike

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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S2Mike said:
Thanks that is excellent, I appreciate the photos. That is the part Ford are saying is not in stock, so may have to go down the aluminium welding route.
Ta Mike
YHM

S2Mike

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179 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Hi, I am in process of joining the TVR owners club but it seems access to members area takes 4 days, I am getting a little desperate to get this housing from where ever I can, does anyone reading this have access to possible suppliers? I have included the FORD parts manual diagram in case it helps. Im told genuine Ford item is about £90 but obsolete. I could add a finders fee.

lewdon

316 posts

194 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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I am very new to S2 ownership so I am rather timid about raising my head above the parapet. on the couple of occasions I have done so all I have demonstrated is my total ignorance, so please forgive me if I am wrong. But from memory ( i am at work) the hose connection on the nearside of the timing cover appears to bolt on to the back of the cover. It might be an idea to see if this small piece can be unbolted as it might be easier to repair or replace than the entire cover. If this is a nonsense suggestion I appologise.

S2Mike

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179 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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I will be calling in to my garage buddies and see the damage for myself. I may have to go for Aluminium Welding for which I have got a couple of offers, depending on the number of bits the housing has crumbled into. I just want the car back on the road before the snow getts too deep!! But I will look into the hose bolt-on arrangement, that may make life a little easier, Thanks for taking the time to offer help!

Edited by S2Mike on Wednesday 19th October 15:10

Ragtop

592 posts

230 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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If you're really desperate, there's a complete 2.9 engine for sale at Elmwood TVR in Ewell in Surrey, for £75. Contact Paul, 07767 230569 or paulcaro2002@yahoo.co.uk

Good luck,
Graham

S2Mike

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179 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Thais I may check that one out. Cheers for the info.
Mike

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Dont forget I have one as well and its closer in south birmingham, looking for the same price!!

Norman

S2Mike

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Thursday 20th October 2011
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Norman, Is your engine the same as mine with the separate housing or is it the previous one with the water pump all in one? Cos I would like to keep the original engine as it is such a low miler, if I can, andt just exchange the broken bit, it is just the outlet pipe fitting that has fallen apart so may be able to sleeve it.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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S2Mike said:
Norman, Is your engine the same as mine with the separate housing or is it the previous one with the water pump all in one? Cos I would like to keep the original engine as it is such a low miler, if I can, andt just exchange the broken bit, it is just the outlet pipe fitting that has fallen apart so may be able to sleeve it.
Previous advice given to you has obviously been confusing. All of the 2.9 Cologne engines have the same separate water pump and timing chain cover as shown in my photos. Any previous advice you have received, that they are all in one, was mistaken. There is no other version.

S2Mike

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Thursday 20th October 2011
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Thanks for that TVRGIT. OK so Norman if you are in possession of a 2.9 cologne version as in TVRGIT s photos with the housing intact you have a sale. I will speak to a guy I know about transporting the engine. Unless you have the necessary? I would pay petrol costs.

Edited by S2Mike on Thursday 20th October 10:40

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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If you can arrange for collection that would be best. Do you want to give me a ring on **************

Edited to remove number and Mke YHM

Edited by Gerald-TVR on Thursday 20th October 11:26

S2Mike

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Thursday 20th October 2011
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Ok so just to confirm your engine matches the photo TVRGIT has posted?

Gerald-TVR

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226 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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S2Mike said:
Ok so just to confirm your engine matches the photo TVRGIT has posted?
Yep