Coil packs for 2.9?

[King Fisher]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-2-9...

I never knew the 2.9 V6 had coil packs? I thought they all used an individual coil? Or am I wrong?

[davedogfish]

My '91 S3C had its original coil pack fitted when I bought it. One of the bonded-in LT connectors on the pack snapped soon afterwards and the high price of a replacement coil pack convinced met to replace it with a conventional cylindrical Lucas item. This was a straight swap other than having to change the HT lead as the coil pack has a male connector whereas conventional coils of course have a female connection.

Dave

[tvrgit]

davedogfish said:

My '91 S3C had its original coil pack fitted when I bought it. One of the bonded-in LT connectors on the pack snapped soon afterwards and the high price of a replacement coil pack convinced met to replace it with a conventional cylindrical Lucas item. This was a straight swap other than having to change the HT lead as the coil pack has a male connector whereas conventional coils of course have a female connection.

Dave

I think you are talking about the Ford / Inermotor dry coil, where a single king lead still takes the spark to the distributor and rotor arm. What KF is referring to is a 6-output pack that replaces the distributor, with an individual lead to each spark plug.

I think those might have been fitted to the latest Scorpios, or maybe to the 24V versions or something, but they are certainly not the standard "2.9 Ford" as described in that advert.

[magpies]

they are deffinately standard on the 24v

[davedogfish]

Yep,

Sorry, I stand corrected. I should have followed the link. I had stupidly assumed that the ad was for the Intermotor coil.

Dave

[tvrgit]

magpies said:

they are deffinately standard on the 24v

I thought so but wasn't sure, so didn't want to post pish for posterity.

Thanks for confirming!

[King Fisher]

Will it work on an S?

[tvrgit]

King Fisher said:

Will it work on an S?

No

ETA Or yes, but only if you change a whole load of other bits at the same time - and I am not even sure if the necessary bits are available. If you don't know where to get those bits either, see first answer.

Edited by tvrgit on Sunday 15th April 20:40

[King Fisher]

tvrgit said:

No

ETA Or yes, but only if you change a whole load of other bits at the same time - and I am not even sure if the necessary bits are available. If you don't know where to get those bits either, see first answer.

Edited by tvrgit on Sunday 15th April 20:40

Fair play. I take it it'd need a new ECU, capable of controlling the timing (as the distributor would be gone). It'd save having to time things up etc, and probably be more reliable....

[tvrgit]

King Fisher said:

Fair play. I take it it'd need a new ECU, capable of controlling the timing (as the distributor would be gone). It'd save having to time things up etc, and probably be more reliable....

probably also a crank position sensor and circuitry, so that the ecu can time the spark. Will the new ECU be compatible with all the sensors you've already got? I don't know, but there may be more difficulties than you envisage.

More reliable than what though? Mine has done 96,000 miles no problem. My old 2.9 V6 Granada did 195,000 miles no problem. Why give yourself all the hassle to solve a problem you haven't got?

[King Fisher]

tvrgit said:

probably also a crank position sensor and circuitry, so that the ecu can time the spark. Will the new ECU be compatible with all the sensors you've already got? I don't know, but there may be more difficulties than you envisage.

More reliable than what though? Mine has done 96,000 miles no problem. My old 2.9 V6 Granada did 195,000 miles no problem. Why give yourself all the hassle to solve a problem you haven't got?

Nick has got the problem that his car is destroying coils by the looks of it. Also, he has a problem in that he can't tune the engine due to the ECU. Therefore, he either sells up and moves to a Chim, or mods the S....