Late S series cars, future classics or not
Discussion
I've noticed a rare thing there are some very late cars for sale in PH classifieds at present. One is a late 93 V8S here (but not as late as mine 
) and one of the rarest a S4C [url]here|www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=29705&s=4[/url].
Both are top dollar and rightly so IMHO, shirley these sort will go on to be the defining cars of the S series era, comments good and bad please
.
Harry
>>> Edited by HarryW on Monday 25th October 17:26
) and one of the rarest a S4C [url]here|www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=29705&s=4[/url]. Both are top dollar and rightly so IMHO, shirley these sort will go on to be the defining cars of the S series era, comments good and bad please
. Harry
>>> Edited by HarryW on Monday 25th October 17:26
The S4 - only 600 miles a year on average 
. It should be like brand new.
I do wonder who would buy such a car, mind you. More likely to be a wealthy TVR nut who would garage it and drive it very occasionally rather than someone who was out and about and piling on the miles whenever it wasn't raining.
Very nice though.
. It should be like brand new. I do wonder who would buy such a car, mind you. More likely to be a wealthy TVR nut who would garage it and drive it very occasionally rather than someone who was out and about and piling on the miles whenever it wasn't raining.
Very nice though.
sotonS2 said:
piling on the miles whenever it wasn't raining.
Pile on the miles anyhow!!!
Hmmm.... I'm not sure it may pan out that the wanted ones will be good condition S1s. The Mini Cooper S went through 3 versions, but the really sought after ones are the Mk1 S's.
I have no doubt that the V8S with their much limited production run will be a future classic. I think on the whole the S series will be a very understated and underestimated classic. To the general public people tend to think that they are much older than they actually are. When I say "It's a 1992." the usual reply is: "Really? I though it was much older." This is after the "What is it?"
WildfireS3 said:I found that, people assumed it was an MG or something else from the 60/70s and weren't that impressed.
Hmmm.... I'm not sure it may pan out that the wanted ones will be good condition S1s. The Mini Cooper S went through 3 versions, but the really sought after ones are the Mk1 S's.
I have no doubt that the V8S with their much limited production run will be a future classic. I think on the whole the S series will be a very understated and underestimated classic. To the general public people tend to think that they are much older than they actually are. When I say "It's a 1992." the usual reply is: "Really? I though it was much older." This is after the "What is it?"
But when someone who knew their cars spots the badge even if they didn't know the S, they have respect.
Its difficult to judge the S really and it tends to be forgotten, those older remember the wedges, otherwise the influence of Clarkson when the Griff and Cerbera was laucnhed did it - I'm guilty there my interest was built on the Cerbera back when I was a (late) teenager, its only when I saw the S I recalled seeing it before when I'd fallen for it.
I've got pretty much all the TVR books and the S doesn't feature as much as it should in the video I don't even recall any footage and people tend to forget the cost-saving was was kept TVR alive long enough to build the Griff.
Now does its quiet demeanour mean it will be more or less sought after?
In TVR circles, S3s and below are considered a great first TVR, which keeps sales quick but prices not that high.
However, outside of that, I think people might want the older classics (3000S for example or older even) or the wild, lairy new cars, which except for the V8S might mean the S is looked over.
Quinny said:
The V8S that's advertised is my mate's, and it really is as good as the advert suggests.
The price is what was suggested following an enquiry I made on his behalf on the S forum.
As for future classic status, I believe they are already classics.
Harry, what number is yours? my mate thinks his was number 312 of 315 built.
Andy.
To be honest never got an answer out of the last model registra but the vin is March 94. When speaking to TVR all they would say was it was one of the last 'handfull'. Had a little fun when the last pristine late V8S went up for sale, which incidentally made near £15K. It was advertised as the second to last V8S, mine was a later VIN but apparently the seller of that didn't think it made it a later car
you go figure 
. Harry
Tripps said:
I found that, people assumed it was an MG or something else from the 60/70s and weren't that impressed.
But when someone who knew their cars spots the badge even if they didn't know the S, they have respect.
Its difficult to judge the S really and it tends to be forgotten, those older remember the wedges, otherwise the influence of Clarkson when the Griff and Cerbera was laucnhed did it - I'm guilty there my interest was built on the Cerbera back when I was a (late) teenager, its only when I saw the S I recalled seeing it before when I'd fallen for it.
I've got pretty much all the TVR books and the S doesn't feature as much as it should in the video I don't even recall any footage and people tend to forget the cost-saving was was kept TVR alive long enough to build the Griff.
Now does its quiet demeanour mean it will be more or less sought after?
In TVR circles, S3s and below are considered a great first TVR, which keeps sales quick but prices not that high.
However, outside of that, I think people might want the older classics (3000S for example or older even) or the wild, lairy new cars, which except for the V8S might mean the S is looked over.
I have found the same thing, in many books and videos the timeline goes straight from Wedge to Griff, bypassing the S all together. I find this a bit off putting as the S was the car that saved TVR.
That said my brother got me a book last CHristmas on Fast cars and I was pleased to see that both the Mini and the S were in it. Admittedly the S was hardly mentioned, but there was a picture of the Penthouse S.
Again many people think that my car is a lot older than it actually is and get confused when I say it's a TVR. I have been mistaken for an MG and a Triumph before.
HarryW said:
The V8S that's advertised is my mate's, and it really is as good as the advert suggests.
The price is what was suggested following an enquiry I made on his behalf on the S forum.
As for future classic status, I believe they are already classics.
Harry, what number is yours? my mate thinks his was number 312 of 315 built.
Andy.
To be honest never got an answer out of the last model registra but the vin is March 94. When speaking to TVR all they would say was it was one of the last 'handfull'. Had a little fun when the last pristine late V8S went up for sale, which incidentally made near £15K. It was advertised as the second to last V8S, mine was a later VIN but apparently the seller of that didn't think it made it a later car
Harry
Quinny any info on this front from your mate as it is always something that has 'interested' me. For instance how does he know it was/is 312/315 built
. Out of interest there should also be a 'Chassis date plate' when the bare chassis was welded together sited under the radiator on the cross member, mine is Dec 93. The VIN is when it fitted out as a complete car in production order all TVR produced for that year.
Always would liked to view the very lst M plater (date sold/registered
) to see what the VIN and Chassis dates numbers are on that . Harry
HarryW said:
The S series was supposed to be a modern (at the time) take on the classic 3000S, so it had retro looks even when it was new. I don't think its a future classic, I think it's already a classic.
Agree Peter, it was born a classic and will always be classic
Harry
Agree, instant classic.........how many other cars built in 1992 qualify for classic insurance? Mike
V8Smith said:
GreenV8S said:
The S series was supposed to be a modern (at the time) take on the classic 3000S, so it had retro looks even when it was new. I don't think its a future classic, I think it's already a classic.
Harry
Mike
....and good looking to boot
. Harry
I doubt any TVR will ever be widely (outside tvr circles) considered classic.
Go back in time to earlier TVR cars like the Wedge,if any car was to achieve truely classic status the SEAC would surely have achieved it.But the prices haven't shown this and how many are sought after for museums?
IMHO
>> Edited by pies on Tuesday 26th October 18:13
Go back in time to earlier TVR cars like the Wedge,if any car was to achieve truely classic status the SEAC would surely have achieved it.But the prices haven't shown this and how many are sought after for museums?
IMHO
>> Edited by pies on Tuesday 26th October 18:13
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