MOT failure chassis rot - what to do?
MOT failure chassis rot - what to do?
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BHGi

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37 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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After 8 years of ownership my V8S has failed its MOT because of rust in the outriggers and probably the chassis as well. It is being inspected to assess the full extent. I would obviously like to get it repaired/ replaced if possible but I have been warned that it may end up costing more than the car is worth. If this is the case could anyone suggest options of what I can do. I would hate there to be one less V8S in the world but are there other options? Any thoughts much appreciated whilst I wait for the news. Thanks
Giles

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Exchange chassis is £1500 at David Gerald TVR. How handy are you with a spanner?
Rob.

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Sorry to hear about your rotten chassis, but l suppose you knew it was on the cards?. As for getting a body off repair really depends on a few things

1, how much you cherish the car, most tvr owners love their cars as much as the wife.

2, cash flow, can you afford to pay someone else to do the work?

3, are you good with your hands, have tools, a garage, and time is on your side. It could take a while if you undertake the repairs yourself.

?????? Good luck.

Prices of chassis repairs are going up every few years so getting it done is an investment for your cars future and if done correctly will last and pay you back in big grins from the glorious V8 sound track !!!!!

AutoAndy

2,270 posts

244 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Don't "necessarily" panic capt Manwering....

Generally the outriggers suffer more than the rest of the chassis....that's why everyone talks about them.

Had mine done few years ago and the guys managed to do it by a partial body lift only, rather than removal....


So, if you are worried, sell me your v8S for scrap value and I will get it repaired for a few hundred quid and have a nice v8 to compare to my v6.... wink .... Mmmmm I like that idea....

Deeman

1,609 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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BHGi said:
I have been warned that it may end up costing more than the car is worth.
Really?

A V8S is worth anywhere from around £5k - £10k I would have thought.

Sounds like someone's trying to knock you down to "take it off yer hands mate"


greymrj

3,329 posts

233 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Arrrrghhh, no! Don't let it go to the great S place in the sky whatever you do. If you cannot do it yourself, and the cost of getting it done professionally is too high, offer it as it is on the forum....one of us will save it!! (Just let me know first!)

Skinne01

40 posts

258 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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I've just had my outriggers done on an S3. Sailed through the MOT only to have rusted through 6 months later in the summer.
Central TVR did a great job, great friendly service. Both sides done and the rest of the chassis in A1 condition. I'm sure we'll all have our own recommendations though.

magpies

5,203 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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main thing is to get it inspected by by a reputable TVR specialist

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Griffinr said:
Exchange chassis is £1500 at David Gerald TVR. How handy are you with a spanner?
Rob.
Really, is that all? That seems pretty good value for money.

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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"more info" button not working, perhaps they don't have one at the moment?

David Gerald (S2/3 chassis, not V8)


Of course that would be just the start, you couldn't put skanky wishbones, tank cradle, trailing arms etc. on a nice new chassis..could you?

BHGi said:
could anyone suggest options of what I can do. I would hate there to be one less V8S in the world but are there other options?
You could donate the car the Phillpot Living Car Museum where "we" will restore it to its former glory, cherish and care for it for generations to come (and give it a good blast every so often) wink

Edited by phillpot on Friday 22 November 08:11

SMB

1,523 posts

295 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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BHGi said:
After 8 years of ownership my V8S has failed its MOT because of rust in the outriggers and probably the chassis as well. It is being inspected to assess the full extent. I would obviously like to get it repaired/ replaced if possible but I have been warned that it may end up costing more than the car is worth. If this is the case could anyone suggest options of what I can do. I would hate there to be one less V8S in the world but are there other options? Any thoughts much appreciated whilst I wait for the news. Thanks
Giles
Personally I would repair the car if it were mine, just to save a piece of history. I'm in Sussex too, if you decide it's too much for you please let me know as I would save it, rather than break it.

RayTVR

1,087 posts

172 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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phillpot said:
"more info" button not working, perhaps they don't have one at the moment?

David Gerald (S2/3 chassis, not V8)




Edited by phillpot on Friday 22 November 08:11
If you click on the photo the 'more info' page comes up.

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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RayTVR said:
If you click on the photo the 'more info' page comes up.
So it does!

I was clicking on "more info>>" ......rolleyes

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I keep reading of outrigger repairs costing in the region of £1500-£2000, so I tell you what, I'll give you £2000 for it, sight unseen. Really though the repair is going to cost you less than the value of the car, you can't go wrong getting it repaired even if you sell it on after getting it done.

Edited to add, is that UKBob's ex car? If yes, forget my offer wink

Edited by Oldred_V8S on Friday 22 November 10:31

Dave_M

5,486 posts

253 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Mine went from being sound and clean to the next year a little more like cheese, very surprised with the quite sudden change.

Anyhow, I had the offending corners cut off without a bodylift and the cost was in the region of £250. Passed the MOT and the next MOT and looks sound. Obviously this was done as a friend hence the low price (not a full outrigger, that wasn't needed).

It's very much worth talking to people.

Clearly, you cannot tell what the chassis is like unless you lift the body though.

Kitchski

6,551 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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We've got a V8S due in for a full refurb shortly. Involves taking the body off completely, stripping the chassis right down, blasting it, zinc-spraying it, coating it and rebuilding it changing parts along the way that need doing. Not cheap (though obviously we're exceptional VFM biggrin ) because of the amount of man hours that go into each car. It's not a quick job, if you want it done right.

That said, it's also possible to just raise the body, repair/replace the outriggers and refit it, IF the rot is confined to the outriggers. It quite often is, but the issue comes when you think you're spending £1000-£2000 on having that done, and then for another couple of grand you can have the whole chassis sorted, because no matter how good your outriggers are, the rest of the chassis will follow one day. It really depends what your long term plans for the car are.

Always welcome to bring it down if you want to have a better look underneath. We're not far from you.

drmaloney

55 posts

226 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I did mine last summer after the MOT chap finally spotted the rust (to be honest it had got that bad you couldn't miss it!). I google and found a local mobile car welder who specialises in classic cars. I did a partial lift on the drive, bought some 3mm walled tube, paid the chap £300 and a day and a half later it was done. Several coats of paint later, it sailed through its MOT.
My advice is to research locally for a mobile welder and partially lift the body if you feel able and if the rust is not too extensive!
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Longers

4,505 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Dave_M said:
I had the offending corners cut off without a bodylift and the cost was in the region of £250.
Sounds good Dave, but how much did it cost to have the corners replaced...?! hehe

swimmer27

482 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Repaired my own in September this year.

Have a look at this link NeilS3 sent me
http://www.tvrssw.com/#/chassis/4578340782

Dave_M

5,486 posts

253 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Longers said:
Sounds good Dave, but how much did it cost to have the corners replaced...?! hehe
Not too much. As you know, I am adept with duct tape smile