Stove Enameling Springs?
Stove Enameling Springs?
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v8s4me

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7,275 posts

248 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Probably a stupid question but anyway; can coil springs be stove enameled or with the heat involved knacker the springs?

Quinny

15,922 posts

295 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Powder coat would be the usual finish for springs.... Stove enamel might be a bit brittle..smile

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Isn't "Stove Enamel" rock bard and brittle, chips/cracks very easy (like an old bath tub)?


Stop messing about and send them to this guy for Plascoat smile

v8s4me

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248 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Tha's me told then laugh

mohitos

1,313 posts

228 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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May be better to just fit new ? Derek from Absolutely Shocks told me recently springs are only £20 a corner. Probably a bit more than powder coating, but not massively so.

v8s4me

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7,275 posts

248 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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mohitos said:
....may be better to just fit new ? ......... springs are only £20 a corner. Probably a bit more than powder coating......
The same as it happens as I've been quoted locally but the new ones won't be rising rate and probably not exactly the same length. If that's the case then I'd have all shorts of issues with ride height.

greymrj

3,329 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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If you do decide to go for powder coating I would be interested to know how much they charge (presumably for pre-treatment by dipping or gritblashing a well as coating). The cost seems to have risen quite steeply locally. Not sure if it is the cost of the process or just a greedy firm!

Definitely not stove enamelling; vitreous enamel would rapidly produce some interesting cracked and chipped effects!

v8s4me

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Tuesday 11th February 2014
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v8s4me said:
............then I'd have all shorts of issues .......
Shorts? “Smart” ‘phones really are crap aren’t they? silly

DamianS3

1,805 posts

211 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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mohitos said:
May be better to just fit new ? Derek from Absolutely Shocks told me recently springs are only £20 a corner. Probably a bit more than powder coating, but not massively so.
That could explain who gaz ones look sh@t after 18 months

Damian

Quinny

15,922 posts

295 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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greymrj said:
If you do decide to go for powder coating I would be interested to know how much they charge (presumably for pre-treatment by dipping or gritblashing a well as coating). The cost seems to have risen quite steeply locally. Not sure if it is the cost of the process or just a greedy firm!

Definitely not stove enamelling; vitreous enamel would rapidly produce some interesting cracked and chipped effects!
I've recently had a couple of sets of wheels powder coated at the wheel specialist in Elesmere Port, and they were doing some springs....and yes they do strip and blast before coating.... No idea on price, but I'll ask tomorrow when I go and pick up some wheels for a mate...smile

Quinny

15,922 posts

295 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Just a quick heads up.... Just spoke to Greg from the wheel specialist Elesmere Port...... He said that springs cost £10 +vat per spring, as long as its a stock colour..... Red, white, black etc..

If you want a non stock colour, he has to cover the price of a box of powder (around) £40 quid, so only viable if its a bit of a group deal....

Oh and he can chemically strip, or blast the old springs...smile

On a personal note, I'm more than happy to recommend these guys, the place is spotless, and they're very customer friendly..smile

mohitos

1,313 posts

228 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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DamianS3 said:
That could explain who gaz ones look sh@t after 18 months

Damian
Oh !

glenrobbo

40,450 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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v8s4me said:
v8s4me said:
............then I'd have all shorts of issues .......
Shorts? “Smart” ‘phones really are crap aren’t they? silly
yes especially if they've been gritblashed. wink

Richard,
Try Chicago Coatings ( in an old dark satanic mill in Mossley ).
Gritblasting & powdercoating in basic colours, eg black, white, silver & maybe others. They are very cheap & cheerful, but not the quickest turnround time if you're in a hurry. Allow a fortnight or so.
The finish may also have a few inclusions, so I wouldn't recommend them for important showy stuff like wheels, but great for sumps, springs, brake drums, swirl pots, rocker covers etc.

For top quality flawless finish & a very quick service, I don't think you could do better than "The Wheel Specialist" Manchester branch.
There's probably a franchise near you in Preston.
I am delighted with my wheels ( yet to be fitted ). thumbup

v8s4me

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248 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Based on Phillpot’s recommendation,passing comment, I’m going to give Maldon a go and will report back on the outcome.






glenrobbo

40,450 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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v8s4me said:
Based on Phillpot’s recommendation,passing comment, I’m going to give Maldon a go and will report back on the outcome.
Joe,
The glow in the dark powdercoat finish sounds good wink

greymrj

3,329 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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[quote=Quinny]Just a quick heads up.... Just spoke to Greg from the wheel specialist Elesmere Port...... He said that springs cost £10 +vat per spring, as long as its a stock colour..... Red, white, black etc..

If you want a non stock colour, he has to cover the price of a box of powder (around) £40 quid, so only viable if its a bit of a group deal....

Thanks Quinny, I though my local place was getting a bit steep, so did Glen when he asked them for a wheel quote. Matter of interest, how much was it per wheel?

Quinny

15,922 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Richard.....a few weeks back I had a set of 17" RL's done in gunmetal.... Brilliant job, and it cost £280 for them to remove tyres, strip wheel, coat, refit tyres and balance...

Then this week they've done my mates estorils in anthracite... Cost was £270, and hey look greatcool

I'll post a pic up when I refit them tomorrowsmile

greymrj

3,329 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Is that for a set of four Quinny? I wonder if Glenn will come in about the quote he got? The S1 OZ wheels are smaller and simpler but they do have the black centre which has to be added after the main colour is baked.

Quinny

15,922 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Yep.... Set of 4yes

glenrobbo

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179 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Hi Richard,
Quote from Chicago Coatings who have done previous stuff for me was £100 all in.
That's for a set of four 15" wheels with no tyres on, stripped, blasted & powdercoated plain silver but no quality preparation of any minor defects, and probably inclusive of a few inclusions. ie, cheap & cheerful. wink
Turnround time 2 or 3 weeks.

In the end I went to The Wheel Specialist in Manchester.
Original quote was £312 for "Flash Chrome" finish, including strip, refit & balance, but as I had no tyres on mine, after holding out for a while, I negotiated a special deal with them, £200 for the set of 4.
They are great to deal with, very professional, & did a fantastic job, just like new only better. They dip, strip blast & prep, attend to any blemishes or kerbing on the wheels, then heat them in a humidity controlled booth to drive out any moisture, then they are powdercoated black all over, then the Flash Chrome powdercoat is applied to the outer faces.
The result is superb. Turnround time - next day. It the same day if you drop them off first thing smile

The centres I am doing in black self- adhesive vinyl ( still ongoing ), but I'm leaving the spoke edges as they already look good.
I'll post pics when I get the tyres fitted, hopefully by the end of the month.
I'll take them back to TWS for this, because I know they'll take care with them.

Edited by glenrobbo on Wednesday 12th February 21:25