Why do V8 S's still command so much wonga?
Why do V8 S's still command so much wonga?
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pwig

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12,001 posts

294 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Surely these should be around the 7k mark considering early Chims are around 8-9k now?

Mustard

6,992 posts

269 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Supply and demand pure and simple, whilst prices will always have some colleration between the two

very few V8S's

Loads of Chim's

Hence why good V8's find homes very quickly whilst good Chim's still have to fight for the buyers attention, which normally price has a bearing


bugsy

1,371 posts

260 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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IMHO
The V8S is a classic car with loads of power, some people prefer its more classic looks and the same goes for the V6, they can easily make 7.5k for a good one and that isn't far off cheap chim money either.

V8Smith

3,510 posts

277 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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As has been said above the rarity factor has a lot to do with it but also depends what you want? If you want a sports car for the weekend, for thrills the Chim cant compete with thw V8S IMHO. The Chim is the more complete all round car but with comfort comes less excitement hence why the V8S will always have a market. Also a good V8S will outrun a Chim 450 (proven) so you need a Chim 500 to be faster!

Long may it command a high premium! From the number of people that have sent me a mail asking that if ever I sell I give them a call I know my car would sell welll into Chim money territory!

Mike

RichB

55,415 posts

308 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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pwig said:
Surely these should be around the 7k mark considering early Chims are around 8-9k now?

Must say that sounds fair to me, I'd rather a decent V8S than a tatty Chimp...

>> Edited by RichB on Friday 31st December 16:00

ukbob

16,277 posts

289 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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RichB said:
Must say that sounds fair to me, I'd rather a decent V8S than a tatty Chimp...
for sure

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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For me, it would have to be a Griff. But as above it is supply and demand. If I speak to people about TVRs then they always think of Chims. Far too common, but as said above a much more complete car. A bit better for maintainence

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Friday 31st December 2004
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Most Certainly not, I meant that I would have a Griff over both of them. But having driven an S through all weather I reckon a slightly more sorted car would be better for regular use, and I'd probably rather go for that when I go for a V8.

HarryW

15,845 posts

293 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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In my unbiased opinion , seriously, I think it unfair to compare the prices of the V8S to an early Chim. As already said rarity alone should mean the V8S will command a higher premium, supply and demand, plain and simple. Don't forget you are looking at less than 400 V8S's out there compared to thousands of Chims.
Slightly different cars too. Ones raw and provides and out and out fun, the other is more refined and a better every day car. I bought mine as a fun second car and it does that just fine .
There will always be bargains but any sorted V8S should be worth around the £10K mark, if sorted S3's are worth £7K then perhaps more .
I think early precat griffs are holdong there own in this area and there is no reason why V8S doesn't too.
Its all to easy to talk down the cars, but what else can you get for your money that provides so many smiles per mile.
As already said most V8S's will hold there own in performance terms with 450's so why settle for second best .

Harry

mrk4thom

1,271 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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According to Steve Heath's Bible there are less than 140 registered in the UK. With some of these being laid to waste and others now on the track or hill climbing, the V8S is becoming scarce. I agree with the opinion the rarity is playing an important role in keeping the prices up, do we think though this will continue or perhaps even increase.

Under £10k for a V8 engine is a complete steal, they are practically giving them away.

tvrjohn

1,069 posts

279 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Must get mine out this year, been laid up for 5 years
Attention diverted by house/kids & Cerbera

joospeed

4,473 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Well mine's been for sale for a fortnight now and not had anyone serious about buying it .. might be the time of the year or maybe it's track-based lifestyle is putting people off I have no idea .. but at 7500 I thought it wasn't overpriced.

When I bought it i really wanted a Griff but couldn't afford one. I never even considered the Chim, don't like the looks and they're waaay too common. Chances are at every TVR meet Chims outnumber everything else 3 to 1. How many V8S do you see? not many

The V8S also makes the better performance bargain .. lighter and lower geared so it's quicker, early Chims are slow and don't stop by comparison.

I love my V8S, I was happy to pay nearly 9k for it 18months ago and consider it very very good value for money depsite losing the best part of 3-4k on it including the upgrades in that time.

[tonythetiger] They're G g g g reat [/tonythetiger]

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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I guess this time of year people tend to be busy and don't have time to go car hunting, especially for a car they may not be able to enjoy until the spring? Just wait until the weather warms up, I'm sure people will be queueing up especially for such a well sorted example. But I think you're *really* going to miss it Joolz!

Chuggaboom

1,152 posts

272 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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V8Smith said:
a good V8S will outrun a Chim 450 (proven)


By who/where etc please.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Chuggaboom said:

By who/where etc please.


Well I'm willing to give it a go!

Joking aside, I don't think I'd make quite such a sweeping statement, but I would say that V8Ss have a small power to weight advantage over the other 4.0 RV8 TVRs, more direct handling and better braking. A well set up and well driven V8S can give some of the other nominally faster TVRs a good run for their money, and I see them do it routinely at track days and sprints. But purely in terms of a straight line drag race I think a 450 would have a significant advantage and a 500 would win hands down.

joospeed

4,473 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Chuggaboom said:

V8Smith said:
a good V8S will outrun a Chim 450 (proven)



By who/where etc please.



Ask ace-t and EmmaP what they thought of their passenger rides in my S at Bruntingthorpe .. at Oulton I've passed 5litre griffs and chims .. and I'm not a particularly gifted driver. Peter H has the upper hand over me though

V8Smith

3,510 posts

277 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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Chuggaboom said:

V8Smith said:
a good V8S will outrun a Chim 450 (proven)



By who/where etc please.


My V8S and another PHer M-G who had a Chim 450.....? In a straight line on the A1 no driver error involved my V8S pulled away from the Chim each time we accelorated in the same gear. I wanted to see how much slower my car was than a 450...turned out to be the other way around.........

The V8S is lighter so in gear accelloration is superb, 50-70mph in fifth is apparently the same as a Lambo murcielago?? They are no slouch!

Mike

ukbob

16,277 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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V8Smith said:
The V8S is lighter so in gear accelloration is superb, 50-70mph in fifth is apparently the same as a Lambo murcielago?? They are no slouch!

Mike
...Than the new porsche 911, you said so yourself last year

IIRC, when mine was on the rollers, I achieved a higher BHP than a 450 chim who was in the same day. So if the V8S is lighter...

HarryW

15,845 posts

293 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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Its been said many a time, but it is worth repeating .
In its day (circa 91) the V8S was quicker in gear than the 911 Turbo .

Harry