Adjustable bias valve bracket
Adjustable bias valve bracket
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phillpot

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17,459 posts

206 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Now in stainless... wink







NaCl

286 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Beautiful!

Marc C

128 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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It does look a work of art, but at the risk of sounding daft what is the advantage of an adjustable bias valve bracket ?

On the piccy I see your have flexi's on there, to make it adjustable I suppose (duh!) have you ran them throughout the whole system ? what's the black thing I see it looks like the back end of a coil I think, if you've moved yours, I assume that the angle of the original bracket was set for a reason what happens if this is changed ? and what's under the black black cap, is it a bleed nipple ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm genuinely curious

And as everyone seems to take the michael (jealousy) about stainless, you do realise that those bolts holding the peddle box are ONLY A2 grade and may well show some blemishes in 20 years time !

HvdWeerden

1,739 posts

223 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Griffinr

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197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Marc C said:
It does look a work of art, but at the risk of sounding daft what is the advantage of an adjustable bias valve bracket ?
I think it's the investigation of material volume and construction made possible in an artistic form, to begin to combine materials like stainless steel and flexible hose, the materials of modern Classicism, comparable in their severity with the marble of antiquity. In this way, an opportunity emerges of uniting purely artistic forms with utilitarian intentions.

Edited by Griffinr on Wednesday 8th July 08:42

phillpot

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Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Marc C said:
It does look a work of art, but at the risk of sounding daft what is the advantage of an adjustable bias valve bracket ?
On the couple of occasions I've had to hit the brakes rather hard, everything happens a bit quick to take a lot of notes but the front end definitely locks up first. So the idea was to increase the angle of the valve (making it harder for the ball inside to roll up the ramp) giving a bit more rear braking?
Would be nice to have a private bit of road and a set of nearly bald "about to be binned anyway" tyres and have a proper play around with various angles to see if there is any noticeable difference?

Marc C said:
On the piccy I see your have flexi's on there, to make it adjustable I suppose (duh!) have you ran them throughout the whole system ? what's the black thing I see it looks like the back end of a coil I think, and what's under the black black cap, is it a bleed nipple ?
Whole car is not "flexi", one is from master cylinder other goes to a hydraulic brake light switch on the bulkhead.Standard "rigid" pipes would quite probably flex enough to accommodate small changes in angle?
Black thing is the coil, on top of a hot engine didn't strike me as a good place to be?
Yes, that is a bleed nipple.


Marc C said:
And as everyone seems to take the michael (jealousy) about stainless, you do realise that those bolts holding the peddle box are ONLY A2 grade and may well show some blemishes in 20 years time !
I can live with that, think I'll be showing a lot more blemishes in far less than 20 years wink


Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 8th July 09:23

glenrobbo

39,412 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Griffinr said:
Marc C said:
It does look a work of art, but at the risk of sounding daft what is the advantage of an adjustable bias valve bracket ?
I think it's the investigation of material volume and construction made possible in an artistic form, to begin to combine materials like stainless steel and flexible hose, the materials of modern Classicism, comparable in their severity with the marble of antiquity. In this way, an opportunity emerges of uniting purely artistic forms with utilitarian intentions.

Edited by Griffinr on Wednesday 8th July 08:42
Rob, you took the words right out of my mouth.
You have conjured a perfect synopsis of the creator Phillpot's expressivism in the medium that is stainless. bow

Marc C

128 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Griffinr said:
I think it's the investigation of material volume and construction made possible in an artistic form, to begin to combine materials like stainless steel and flexible hose, the materials of modern Classicism, comparable in their severity with the marble of antiquity. In this way, an opportunity emerges of uniting purely artistic forms with utilitarian intentions.

Edited by Griffinr on Wednesday 8th July 08:42
So true, even though I didn't really know its purpose, I still found myself wanting one smile

greymrj

3,329 posts

227 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Psssst, quiet about the stainless fetish. It isnt mentioned in polite company.nono Mind you I did hear he was looking at buying a DeLorean hehe

glenrobbo

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173 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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greymrj said:
Psssst, quiet about the stainless fetish. It isnt mentioned in polite company.nono Mind you I did hear he was looking at buying a DeLorean hehe
Hi Richard,
I have it on good authority that Phillpot actually owns all of the DeLoreans except for one, and he leases them out to the current keepers.
It was probably that remaining one that you heard about him making a bid for.... wink

glenrobbo

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Wednesday 8th July 2015
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HvdWeerden said:
biggrin
I can't let this contribution go by without comment!
I told you in the spare spare thread that Han has a better command of the English language than the rest of us.
Now please buck your ideas up or I shall set the Dutch spelling police on you! wink

AutoAndy

2,270 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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I like the look of it Mike...and tempted to do something similar to replace the pile of rust that I currently use...

...One concern, have you looked into any implications due to the method of mounting? as it is part of the braking system I imagine the MOT tester will take a close look...however, from my non-expert point of view, you now have part of the brakes held on by a clamp only. So if the bolts are not tight enough, or come loose, could result in the thing falling out and upsetting the brake balance.

Cheers
Andy

glenrobbo

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Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Not to be alarmist Andy but in my experience with aircraft, many components are fitted using far flimsier clamps than the one holding Phillpot's valve. Just saying....
I think there is quite a potential weight saving to made there by employing a flat section clamp made from stainless steel sheet material, rather than that heavy U-bolt.

greymrj

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227 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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glenrobbo said:
I think there is quite a potential weight saving to made there by employing a flat section clamp made from stainless steel sheet material, rather than that heavy U-bolt.
Presumably held in by some nice small stainless screws?

AutoAndy

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238 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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glenrobbo said:
Not to be alarmist Andy but in my experience with aircraft, many components are fitted using far flimsier clamps than the one holding Phillpot's valve. Just saying....
I think there is quite a potential weight saving to made there by employing a flat section clamp made from stainless steel sheet material, rather than that heavy U-bolt.
I accept that, but it is a clamp and so as soon as it loosens a little the whole thing could slide out ( ooo er misses ) rather than a specific locating structure

...does that make sense?

phillpot

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Wednesday 8th July 2015
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"Nylok" nuts and I think the pipes would stop it going far?


... and I have a "friendly" MOT station wink


Unless your particular MOT'er is well converse with the S series would he know it's not standard scratchchin