with or without?
with or without?
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Big Ian

Original Poster:

335 posts

254 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Does anyone have an opinion as to S3's with or without front fog lamps? early cars (G) don't have them and later ones do... or is it important?

brioss

507 posts

282 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Surley its a matter of taste, my old S3 had them, I dont think I ever used them , but I thought they looked great.

tvrgit

8,483 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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not as simple as that - my car is a 1990 (G) and has fogs. Never use them either, right enough.

They do reduce the ground clearance when opening the bonnet, by the way.

bugsy

1,371 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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I presume we are talking about the circular pods, not the little ones in the intake like mine.

If so I think the big lights on the S3C improve the look of the car and I sort of wish I had them.

keirangrogan

486 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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bugsy said:
I presume we are talking about the circular pods, not the little ones in the intake like mine.

If so I think the big lights on the S3C improve the look of the car and I sort of wish I had them.


I agree, if anything should ever happen to my bonnet (God Forbid) I would replace it with one with the lights.

S3CTiv

25 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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On my S3c their driving lights! come on with main beam & their switch

sotonS2

14,687 posts

262 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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S3CTiv said:
On my S3c their driving lights! come on with main beam & their switch


I always thought they were driving lamps and, yes, I think they look better with. Shame mine hasn't.

page3

5,149 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Mine are driving lamps (ie: come on with full beam) not fogs. Fairly useless as there are always zillions of other cars around so I can never use full beam. Look nice though

CHRISCHAT

277 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Mine are also wired as driving lights,excellent for quiet unlit roads out in the sticks, also you get the full effect when flashing (carefull)

tvrgit

8,483 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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mine are fogs.

(Here we go again) I'm sure it's illegal to have lamps below 22" high, wired with main or dipped beam... they are for fog or falling snow only.

S3CTiv

25 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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I just checked the handbook and it says they are fog lights, and only come on with dipped beam.

Mine are not wired that way and only come on with main beam.

Lights are not on the wiring daigram

Psychobert

6,318 posts

280 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Mine are driving lamps, and with the modwise wiring kit and some brighter bulbs, I now look like a low flying ufo when on full beam..

bridgdav

4,805 posts

272 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Mine are seperate lights from the main circuit...

No dependence on dipped / main / fog / snow or any other excuse...

They are miss aligned / tree illuminating / switchable / extra brightness....

Which to be perfectly honest are used less than 1% of the cars driving life....


Dave

imccar

101 posts

254 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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It's one thing that's me since buying mine, all the says these were fitted on the S3, but mine hasn't got them! Yet another foible of the marque. I think they improve the looks, but agree they probably would hardly ever get used!! (and at the end of the day they don't improve the driving experience!!!!)

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Had them on my old S... they looked nice, but that was about it..

walking hormone

507 posts

274 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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My S3 had them and they were fog lamps (H reg) and my V8S had them and they were definately driving lights (J).

As I recall from doing some looking into this when I got the S3, the general consensus of opinion was that as standard the S2 and early S3's didn't have the lights. If a car did have thm then either the owner had replaced the bonnet of his own valition to make it look nice or more often they had been in a prang of some sort and the easiest way to repair a cracked bonnet was get a new one from the factory which by then was only making bonnets with lights.
I'm not saying this is absolute truth but when I was then looking at s3's to buy I did make a point of looking for prang damage.

cheers

WH

PS I like them with

S3Swiss

235 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Not got them on my S3 - not too worried but agree they look the part! As to whether they are fogs or 'drivers' - we used to have this discussion in rallying all the time! There are Construction and Use regs as to what max height fogs can be mounted - could probably be found on t'web somewhere. Also, should be a difference in the actual light lens (or reflector for clear lenses). Fogs have less diffraction allowing a more powerful beam but are focussed down to shine under the fog layer. Driving lamps have a more 'spotlight' beam pattern which is angled at 90deg to the lens (all from memory so scuse any errors - happy rallying days setting up lights in wet muddy service areas!)

z_chromozone

1,436 posts

273 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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One of mine is broken at the moment, I am thinking of removing them and ducting in some brake cooling. Much more useful IMO.

Z

Harry Flashman

21,316 posts

266 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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I think they have areally great effect on the look of the front of the car. Changes it from looking like a classic car to looking like a brutal sports car. If (god forbid) anything happens to my bonnet, my S2 will receive an S3 bonnet with lamps, or perhaps not even lamps, just grilled recesses ducted to feed cold air to the brakes or similar.

Love the wide lowness of the S3 onwards front!

doddze

1,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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personally think the lights give the car a bit of "grunt"look