Drooping problem?
Discussion
. Steve Heath's book on the S series explains how the mount is put together and how to tichten the various bits up. It's not particularly complicated, but you might struggle to work it out just by looking at it. Get the book, it'll explain what's what and how to fix it, as well as helping with 1001 other little maintenance tips.
I could probably post a link to something Podie or Mungo have referred to in the past REF:- Droop
But that wouldn't be fair...On you.
The S mirror assembly comes from a shitroen so that would / I hope explain a lot.
There is a small M4 grub screw located on the die cast housing...
Now that you have spent 20 minutes finding it....
You will need to cut down the end of the allen key, so that you can displace the collar and still have access to the screw....
If you attempt to tighten the screw and then rotate the mirror you will end up with said droopy one..
Happy screwing..
Dave
But that wouldn't be fair...On you.
The S mirror assembly comes from a shitroen so that would / I hope explain a lot.
There is a small M4 grub screw located on the die cast housing...
Now that you have spent 20 minutes finding it....
You will need to cut down the end of the allen key, so that you can displace the collar and still have access to the screw....
If you attempt to tighten the screw and then rotate the mirror you will end up with said droopy one..
Happy screwing..
Dave
The bible was hopeless when I needed to tighten my mirror. Glossed completely over what you needed to know and seemed to say that the grub screw was inside the mirror body itself.
It's not and we spent 2 hours trying to find the damn thing, looking particularly where you'd think it would be - under the column that tightens onto the boss, where there's most room for it.
If you put the mirror in the normal position, then pull the black plastic shroud thing back into the mirror body as far as possible (i.e. not much), you'll see (with difficulty) the grub screw on the top part of the mirror stalk/ column - the metal thing that attaches the mirror to the boss on the door.
Now, if you saw/break/clip all but about 3mm from the short end of a correct-size allen key (someone here is bound to know it), you can just about - with a lot of swearing - get the end down into the grub screw.
The amount you can tighten the screw each time is miniscule and needs to be enough to be able to manoeuvre the key back in for another go.
We found cutting down two allen keys, one with the long end you hold bent to the left and one bent to the right and used alternately, will allow you to not waste an entire morning like we did.
Bloody mirrors.
It's not and we spent 2 hours trying to find the damn thing, looking particularly where you'd think it would be - under the column that tightens onto the boss, where there's most room for it.
If you put the mirror in the normal position, then pull the black plastic shroud thing back into the mirror body as far as possible (i.e. not much), you'll see (with difficulty) the grub screw on the top part of the mirror stalk/ column - the metal thing that attaches the mirror to the boss on the door.
Now, if you saw/break/clip all but about 3mm from the short end of a correct-size allen key (someone here is bound to know it), you can just about - with a lot of swearing - get the end down into the grub screw.
The amount you can tighten the screw each time is miniscule and needs to be enough to be able to manoeuvre the key back in for another go.
We found cutting down two allen keys, one with the long end you hold bent to the left and one bent to the right and used alternately, will allow you to not waste an entire morning like we did.
Bloody mirrors.
Tighten one grub screw till you can just spin it back to where you want then drill a small hole through the collar and insert a small self tapping screw. Do it up tight and hey presto. Mirror cant go wobbly again and it is easy. I kept tightening the grub screw for ages .... then it would loosen off after a while. Since self tapper not an issue!!! and dead easy
GI said:
The bible was hopeless when I needed to tighten my mirror. Glossed completely over what you needed to know and seemed to say that the grub screw was inside the mirror body itself.
It's not and we spent 2 hours trying to find the damn thing, looking particularly where you'd think it would be - under the column that tightens onto the boss, where there's most room for it.
If you put the mirror in the normal position, then pull the black plastic shroud thing back into the mirror body as far as possible (i.e. not much), you'll see (with difficulty) the grub screw on the top part of the mirror stalk/ column - the metal thing that attaches the mirror to the boss on the door.
Now, if you saw/break/clip all but about 3mm from the short end of a correct-size allen key (someone here is bound to know it), you can just about - with a lot of swearing - get the end down into the grub screw.
The amount you can tighten the screw each time is miniscule and needs to be enough to be able to manoeuvre the key back in for another go.
We found cutting down two allen keys, one with the long end you hold bent to the left and one bent to the right and used alternately, will allow you to not waste an entire morning like we did.
Bloody mirrors.
2 hours!!! Wow! I had a word with David Batty, and it took around 15 min to replace my mirror.
Mind you, it's always easy once you've done it.
Thanks for the tips guys. I had a quick look in a bit more detail last night (was a bit too dark to do anything though!?) - I think I have located the grub screw, but strangely there also is a cable tie round the base of the mirror under the collar 
?? Me thinks this maybe an on going problem......
What size allen key do I need (M4 = 4mm???)?
Doddze - I suspect given the cable tie, I may well go the self tapper route as recommended. Does this screw need to go anywhere particular?
?? Me thinks this maybe an on going problem...... What size allen key do I need (M4 = 4mm???)?
Doddze - I suspect given the cable tie, I may well go the self tapper route as recommended. Does this screw need to go anywhere particular?
Larryb,
If you still have a problem, look in the classifieds, where I have a brand new mirror case, alloy frame and door mount for sale.
Just looking at the mount reveals how it is put together.
What I did was use some thread lock on my grub screw and its been tight as a tight thing for the last 2 & 1/2 years. (Never thought of the self tapper fix)
Nick
If you still have a problem, look in the classifieds, where I have a brand new mirror case, alloy frame and door mount for sale.
Just looking at the mount reveals how it is put together.
What I did was use some thread lock on my grub screw and its been tight as a tight thing for the last 2 & 1/2 years. (Never thought of the self tapper fix)
Nick
Well......I could only find two flat head grub screws (approx 5mm diameter)?? top and bottom (I assume these are not standard, and were a mod by previous owner). One appeared to be loose, so I tightened it up and the mirror come off in my hand 
.
It looks like the metal cage has previously been damaged, and has been repaired with metal putty stuff??, it is also cracked, and the cable tie stops the cage from expanding too much.
Anyway, I have tightened enough to use for now, but me thinks I need a new cage.....it looks like it should be a question of unsrewing and refixing with a new one.
Nick - YHM
. It looks like the metal cage has previously been damaged, and has been repaired with metal putty stuff??, it is also cracked, and the cable tie stops the cage from expanding too much.
Anyway, I have tightened enough to use for now, but me thinks I need a new cage.....it looks like it should be a question of unsrewing and refixing with a new one.
Nick - YHM
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