Brighter Headlights
Brighter Headlights
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Mel-S3

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176 posts

285 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Reading previous threads I realise some of you guys, like myself, have been unhappy with the performance of the S headlights. Well I decided to do something about the situation, coming to the conclusion that the best option would be Mod-Wise brighter lights kit and Philips Vision Plus bulbs. Just like to say that this has improved the lights enormously – excellent distance on main beam, nice white light and much, much brighter - money well spent.

Melvin

Psychobert

6,318 posts

279 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Been seariously considering doing this myself, but with a few other minor odds and ends that needed doing, hadn't got round to it..

How easy was the wiring to fit? I take it there are reasonable instructions with the kit.. Yet to seriously investigate the wiring..

Mel-S3

Original Poster:

176 posts

285 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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Psychobert said: Been seariously considering doing this myself, but with a few other minor odds and ends that needed doing, hadn't got round to it..

How easy was the wiring to fit? I take it there are reasonable instructions with the kit.. Yet to seriously investigate the wiring..

Well the lighting kit is reasonably easy to fit, but is quite time consuming, this is because you have to remove the two front inner mudguards and headlights.

Basically, you pull back the H4 connector that goes on the nearside headlight to a point where you have sited the relays contained within the kit (I sited these by the side of the windscreen washer reservoir), this then connects via a small piece of wiring. You then run new wiring to both headlights, and fit two earth wires to the chassis earth points. You also run two feed wires, also from these relays, to the battery, this will supply the extra power. This then makes the original connectors, the ones that you disconnect to remove the bonnet, redundant, I taped them up to keep them dry. To allow the bonnet to be removed now, the new wiring is fitted with weatherproof connectors, which hopefully should be better that the originals, which always seem to cause problems if they are disturbed. That’s that, no drilling or fitting of connectors.

Hope this gives you some idea,

Melvin



Psychobert

6,318 posts

279 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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Melvin,

Thanks for that.. Seems to be within my limited technical ability.. Just upgraded the bulbs slightly and noticed quite a difference so will see how I go for a while then maybe do this too.. More light the better from my point of view; like to see where I am aiming..

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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Hmm... really should get round to doing this.

Just to confirm, the headlights are H4's...?

... but what are the driving lights on the S3... anyone know?

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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I'd recommend switching to the Vision Plus bulbs before trying the modwise kit, as you may find the increase in light sufficient without having to resort to the kit. I was really impressed by the improvement afforded just by changing to the Philips bulbs.

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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RichardR said: I'd recommend switching to the Vision Plus bulbs before trying the modwise kit, as you may find the increase in light sufficient without having to resort to the kit. I was really impressed by the improvement afforded just by changing to the Philips bulbs.


That was my inital plan... just need the bulbs confirming really...!

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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I spoke to PowerBulbs and they were able to tell me what bulbs I needed, so it might be worth giving them a buzz.

Are your additional lights driving or fog lamps i.e. long straight pencil beam or short wide beam. Mine are fog lamps, despite being wired in with the full beam. If yours are the same, I don't know if you'd see much benefit in upgrading the bulbs in them.

I was planning to replace my existing fog lamps with driving lights, and since one of them's now been smashed by a stray stone on the motorway, I think that plan's imminent.

pete_w

646 posts

286 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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-upgraded just the bulbs on mine to Bosch units. 10 minutes and £15 made a big difference.

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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RichardR said: I spoke to PowerBulbs and they were able to tell me what bulbs I needed, so it might be worth giving them a buzz.

Are your additional lights driving or fog lamps i.e. long straight pencil beam or short wide beam. Mine are fog lamps, despite being wired in with the full beam. If yours are the same, I don't know if you'd see much benefit in upgrading the bulbs in them.

I was planning to replace my existing fog lamps with driving lights, and since one of them's now been smashed by a stray stone on the motorway, I think that plan's imminent.


Driving or fog? er... who knows?!?! Think David Beckham is brighter...

bills1

305 posts

293 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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I have upgraded by fitting Osram Halogen bulbs with Xenon gas which are a lot brighter for £15.

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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Podie said: Driving or fog? er... who knows?!?! Think David Beckham is brighter...
Assuming that yours are also wired in with the main beam, the best way to tell is to switch them on and off in the dark and see the difference it makes. If they seem to throw a short beam, and mainly light up the curbs then they're fog lights; if they throw a much longer beam, like the full beam, then they're spot lights.

mikes3

235 posts

287 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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Re the driving lamp units, I've got them as my next job to do and bought them from autofast, price is for a pair of light units, bulbs etc.

Part number LDB126 is priced at 30.35 pounds each( Delivery is
3/4
> >days )

afsales@lineone.com

Chap to mail is Matt

Hope this helps...

PS Also replaced the headlights (Valeo 082439 19.95 each) and indicator units (BAU2249 are priced at 6.00 Pounds each). Looks good now, just got to get the bloody wheels tidied up now!

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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mikes3 said: Re the driving lamp units, I've got them as my next job to do and bought them from autofast, price is for a pair of light units, bulbs etc.

Part number LDB126 is priced at 30.35 pounds each

So are they fog lamps or spot lights?

mikes3

235 posts

287 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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certainly driving lamps (even tho the switch on the inside of the car has a fog light icon on it). They are switched with the headlight full beam!

The fun bit is going to be getting my (ample) body into a position to be able to get to the bloody things...gonna be a weekend of colourful language and grazed knuckles...or i might just go for a spin in the sunshine and leave it til next weekend!

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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mikes3 said: certainly driving lamps (even tho the switch on the inside of the car has a fog light icon on it). They are switched with the headlight full beam!
I can certainly see the logic that you're employing there, but mine are also switched with the full beam, but are most definitely fog lamps! It seems to be luck of the draw as to whether they're wired with the full beam, dipped beam or sidelights, a la TVR 'standard'.

mikes3

235 posts

287 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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Nope, ones in the car are a narrow long distance beam of light (excluding the rusty bits!!!), replacements are same shape, lens and are marked 'spotlights' on the box...

RichardR

2,905 posts

291 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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mikes3 said: Nope, ones in the car are a narrow long distance beam of light (excluding the rusty bits!!!), replacements are same shape, lens and are marked 'spotlights' on the box...


Sorted! I obviously got unlucky with my mismatch of wiring and lights!

Psychobert

6,318 posts

279 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Mel - Spoke with Modwise this morning and got the impression that the wiring kit had to be modified to make it fit; did you have to get them to change the kit or did it fit as it was? Don't mind a bit of hassle but they all but persuaded me to not buy the kit off them until I'd spoken to someone that had done the job..

Anyone else know how easy it is to swap front fogs for spots? One of mine is blown now due to a stone chip and rusty reflector so needs to be replaced. I thought if I repaced the refelctor to spot shaped I'd get the desired result. Only thing is, they are wired as fogs so only come on with low beam; would that just be a case of replacing the relay?

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Psychobert said:
Mel - Spoke with Modwise this morning and got the impression that the wiring kit had to be modified to make it fit; did you have to get them to change the kit or did it fit as it was? Don't mind a bit of hassle but they all but persuaded me to not buy the kit off them until I'd spoken to someone that had done the job..



One PHer has done it... I had a similar conversation with Modwise myself quite recently...