V8S Tyre Preference
V8S Tyre Preference
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Tripps

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5,814 posts

301 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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What's the current way of thinking as regards replacement tyres for the V8S? As I managed to kill three on track over the weekend driving

I've got SO2 boots all around right now, so won't be able to replace like for like. I used to have RE720s on my S3 and was impresed with them, but am not sure if they are available now and I recall they were V rated where the V8S needs Z rated tyres...

Any advice appreciated smile

nawarne

3,178 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Rob,
I put Dunlop SP 9000's on my V8S. As you say, choice pretty limited now for Z rated 15" tyres. Thought they were OK - but probably not as good as the S02s. I got them for about £74 a corner.

I've got Toyos on the Chim - 15" fronts and they seem OK. Too new to the Chim to really judge yet.
Nick

Tripps

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5,814 posts

301 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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BlackCircles are showing Toya R888's as another Z-rated option (£7 more than the SP9000s though), while at V-rated you've got Bridgetone RE040s, Pirelli P6000s, Toyo Proxes T1-R, Continental Premium Contact and Michelin Pilot Exalto.

Some damn fine tyres at the lower speed rating, makes me wonder if they're a better bet, I know there is the theory that insurance could be invalid, but I can't recall anything in the manual or from TVR where they state tyres must be Z-rated...

tubbystu

3,846 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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SP 9000's are OK - not as good as RE720's but at least they are available........ The Michelin's I had were terrible and I changed the lot after 4 months. Goodyear F1 Eagles were excellent but no longer available in the tyre size and rating.

Try W rated tyres too - they are good for 150mph like Z 'uns.

Tripps

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5,814 posts

301 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Mmm, all very confusing - Elite Direct shows 40 different tyres but none scream out to me like the choices of old.

As regards speed ratings, V is rated up to 149mph, can't recall the top speed of the V8S, but it can't be far off that and realistically doing that in an S would be an interesting experience anyway!

At the moment the Bridgestone Potenza RE010 LZs look a good choice as they are Z-rated and are £70.44 fitted...

Tripps

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301 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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I'm torn between the Bridgestone RE720 and Toyo T1-S, but as the Toyo is W-rated and £9 cheaper a corner I'm leaning in that direction, especially given their usage on Chimaeras and Griffs.

I also have a feeling the the T1-S will be available for longer than the RE720...

profstoff

1,272 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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Rob

From what I saw I can understand how you managed to kill your rear tyres on Sunday.

Like you said, I don't think RE720s are available any more. I got a couple in January for the front of mine but there has been posts on here since from poeple who have not been able to get them. Good luck 'cause I think they are a good tyre.

Tripps

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Thursday 4th October 2007
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profstoff said:
From what I saw I can understand how you managed to kill your rear tyres on Sunday.

Like you said, I don't think RE720s are available any more. I got a couple in January for the front of mine but there has been posts on here since from poeple who have not been able to get them. Good luck 'cause I think they are a good tyre.
Hehe, might as well kill them off with style, didn't expect to take out the fronts at the same time though! smile On my last few timed runs I could hardly keep the back end straight, they are way past the tread markers now!

I'll give Elite a call later, if they can't source RE720s then my choice is made, a shame as I loved the RE720s on the S3.

Tripps

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Thursday 4th October 2007
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OK, just given my old faves Elite Direct a call to see what they have...

No RE720s frown

They've got Toyo T1-R at a great price, but they're only V-rated, for Z there are Dunlop SP9000s and Yoko have the S-Drive that's W rated.

Since our Chim and Griff chums all seem to have gone for Toyo that's the way I'm leaning, as they're great value, but what are the insurance implications, is there something somewhere in a manual that stipulates a V8S must have a Z rated tyre?

profstoff

1,272 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th October 2007
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Tripps said:
OK, just given my old faves Elite Direct a call to see what they have...

No RE720s frown

They've got Toyo T1-R at a great price, but they're only V-rated, for Z there are Dunlop SP9000s and Yoko have the S-Drive that's W rated.

Since our Chim and Griff chums all seem to have gone for Toyo that's the way I'm leaning, as they're great value, but what are the insurance implications, is there something somewhere in a manual that stipulates a V8S must have a Z rated tyre?
It could give an insurance company a wriggle out clause in the event of a claim but as the tyre rating is based on speed and they are all above the legal maximum it should not make a difference.

It could affect the saleability of the car though, if you get some smartbottom along and spots it, he might try to haggle the price down based on a new set of tyres.

Have you tried e-tyes? I've used them a couple of times. They come to you, even on a Saturday and give an excellent service at a very good price. Doubt if they'll get you RE720s though, they struggled with mine back in January.

Tripps

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Thursday 4th October 2007
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profstoff said:
It could give an insurance company a wriggle out clause in the event of a claim but as the tyre rating is based on speed and they are all above the legal maximum it should not make a difference.

It could affect the saleability of the car though, if you get some smartbottom along and spots it, he might try to haggle the price down based on a new set of tyres.

Have you tried e-tyes? I've used them a couple of times. They come to you, even on a Saturday and give an excellent service at a very good price. Doubt if they'll get you RE720s though, they struggled with mine back in January.
Just spoken to Hagerty re the insurance angle and they say it's not an issue thankfully, so a new set of book and four wheel alignment it is for me then bounce

Not too worried about next buyer in this case, would they really manage to get the few extra mph (8 is is...) beyond the 149mph rating of the tyres...

No RE720s on etyres either, looks like our choice is really being railroaded frown

BTW I've got one good S03 which I'll keep in the garage, free to a good home...

Edited by Tripps on Thursday 4th October 11:41

Tripps

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301 months

Monday 8th October 2007
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OK, done around 250 miles on the Toya T1-Rs now and they are starting to bed in, not the ideal weekend for then and keeping up with some mates caused a few lairy moments, so far alright though, mind you considering the tracking and alignment changes made last week, I'm not getting a consistent comparison between old and new.

Am slightly concerned that they might be too hard a tyre for the Tiv, but will adjust/check pressures and see how they go and report back.

Tripps

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Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Dropped the pressures by 2psi per wheel (22 back / 20 front) and with around 450 miles on they seemed a lot better in Sundays wet conditions, still don't feel fully confident with them but they are a lot better than they were.

Still looking as new though, so definitely a hard rubber.

Psychobert

6,318 posts

285 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Any more thoughts on this? Need a new set of boots for my V8S this weekend..

Tripps

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Friday 9th November 2007
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Psychobert said:
Any more thoughts on this? Need a new set of boots for my V8S this weekend..
Was a little happier with them last weekend, but wasn't really out long enough to make a good judgement, if you can wait until Monday I'll give them another razz and see what I think.

Given the few hours of sleep I'd had after a party last Saturday any judgement on Sunday would have been somewhat fuzzy rotate

Psychobert

6,318 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th November 2007
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Not getting very far with this.. Several local tyre places can't source anything in the right size, the one Ive just spoken to won't touch Toyos, but are suggesting Pirelli P7s. Waiting on a few phone calls back, including a couple from yesterday that didn't call me back when they said they would.. Hmm..

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Sunday 11th November 2007
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Pirellis NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I've previously searched the forums and there's lots of post on how bad the Pirelli's are on the S

Psychobert

6,318 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th November 2007
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That's what I'd thought. The P6000s are not an experience I'd like to repeat. Last forever, but grip like teflon on oil..

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th November 2007
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Psychobert said:
That's what I'd thought. The P6000s are not an experience I'd like to repeat. Last forever, but grip like teflon on oil..
My S2 had a set on when I bought it, and after a few months of that I decided they had to go. I went on a track day with the express intention of wearing them out and abused them all day, but I had to admit defeat in the end because there was no wear at all that I could see. I expect they'd have been great for drifting, probably last for years ... biggrin

Psychobert

6,318 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th November 2007
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Local(ish) places can get me sets of Goodyear MLT5s, Firestone TZ200s or Toyo CF1s. One place will try to source something if I specify what I want, but are pretty clear that there is no tyre manufactured in the right size above a V rating.. Starting to get annoyed..