What's involved in preparing an S for the TVRCC Sprints?
What's involved in preparing an S for the TVRCC Sprints?
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Chris71

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21,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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As above really... smile

Thinking of switching to a dedicate (probably non-TVR frown) track day car in a while, but while I can still afford it, I'd quite like to do a few Sprints in the 'S.

Is it easy to fit a timing strut and do you need anything else? Not looking to win, I'd just like to have a play around with a bit more competitive input than a track day.

V8S

8,582 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Interests me too and I think I asked the same question a couple of years ago but was not in a position to do it at the time.

I think GreenV8S is our man.

jimed

1,508 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Have a look at www.tvrspeedchampionship.co.uk and you should be able to find all the info you need; contact the organisers via the site and they'll tell you anyway.
Jim

CNHSS1

942 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Steve Cox is the TVR championship co ordinator, PM me and i will forward his details.

although i have an S2 i dont sprint one (i know sacrilege) but we do bump into the TVR championship boys a few times a year at events, looks like a good mix of relics thru to new-ish cars.

if the cars toatlly stock, no aftermarket performance parts, shocks/springs etc, then no roll over protection or race seat or harness is required by the MSA. if your cars a bit tweaked, then a 4 point roll over protection, minimum 4 point harness and competition seat are required by the MSA. basically, if you modify or improve the cars performance, whether handling or grunt, you have to up the ante on the protection (pretty obvious and sensible really). none of this means the car has to be b**tardised though, some of the roll bars ive seen on sprinting S's look good actually rather than a kiddies climbing frame, and the std seats are hardly fabulous, so a visit to demon Tweeks or similar to try a few nicer examples can actually improve the value of the car. with a bit of thought you can fit a harness and still leave the inertia reel for day to day use.

HTH

CNH

Edited by CNHSS1 on Tuesday 10th March 15:59

Chris71

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21,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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The thing is - my car is very much a fully trimmed road car. It's got Gaz Gold Pros and matching springs in there, so technically the suspension has been modified, but that's as far as I intend to take it. I don't really want to start installing a roll cage or six point harnesses or anything. Definitely got the track day bug, so the long term plan is to get an MX5 or something that I don't mind hacking about, but the TVR is too smart for my DIY track preparation.

CNHSS1

942 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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speak to the Tiv co ordinator as some clubs run differing class regs around the msa. all a bit of a contentious point for 2009 and 2010 with lots of odd regs being proposed by the MSA speed committee and some already in place. All in the aims for nation wide standardisation and to keep the good ol health and safety concious MSA insurers happy.

i fully agree that nice raod cars shouldnt be ripped apart as racers especially as theres plenty of suitable tatty S series/MX5s etc etc about that will never make a proud road car again. better than seeing them broken for bits though.

GreenV8S

31,019 posts

314 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I'm the MSA coordinator for the TVRCC Speed Championship. That means I jump through the hoops the MSA require to get our regs approved and issue the permit; Coxie does all the hard work to make the championship happen.

The technical regs are all up in the air at the minute due to some changes the MSA have been trying to introduce, but it seems unlikely at this late stage that anything substantial will change. Assuming it stays broadly the same as last year, you can keep the car completely standard. You will just need to get yourself a timing strut, put a sticker next to the ignition switch to tell the hard-of-thinking which way to turn the key to stop the engine, and wrap yellow tape round the earth lead. For yourself you need an MSA approved skid lid and race suit. There are several standards to choose from and they're all listed in the Blue Book which the MSA will send you when you get your competition license.

My timing strut is an aluminium strip wrapped in black gaffa tape that is held to the front grill by a couple of cable ties. Others stick then to the number plate using cable ties or more gaffa tape. It's up to you, and you can make it however you want as long as it is about the right size and shape as described in the Blue Book i.e. 2" deep and 12" high extending up to 18" off the ground, with a matt black finish.

Jaye R

790 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Hi

I took part last year - great fun!!!

I didn't have to do anything to my car - apart from tyres and a timing strut.

My S3 has Gaz shocks and this is not counted as a modification.

No requirement for a roll bar or race harnesses.

As a newcomer last year Steve Cox (and all the guys & girls involved in the Sprint Championship) were friendly, helpful and made be feel VERY welcome!!

As Steve says 'the best way to waste your time'

Please feel free to PM me if you want any further details - I cannot recommend it enough, a great way to have 'serious' fun in your pride & joy.

BIG thumbup

Cheers
Jaye

CNHSS1

942 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Apologies Green V8S, i assumed Steve was the co ordinator as ive been dealing with him regarding handicapping scoring systems etc.
as you say, MSA regs/proposed reg changes are somewhat up in the air at the mo, and cant see it getting easier in the short term either.