Need brake upgrade advice...
Need brake upgrade advice...
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Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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I'm thinking about upgrading the brakes on my S, and was wondering what options are available... especially as [shameless plug] Austec [/shameless plug] keep finding a few horses here and there...

I currently have braided hoses with standard sized discs and greenstuff pads. I'm pretty happy with the feel of the brakes and for "fast road use" they have been fade free and well balanced... the car stops in a straight line without too much rear bias (a concern on the S from what Pete Humphries has posted in the past).

So... if I went for bigger discs, would this upset the balance?

Currently thinking that perhaps I'm best off going for grooved discs and keeping them the same size, but the options that Tower View gives of bigger discs and callipers is tempting... very tempting.

Another option is to go for the grooved discs (do I really need drilled ones?) with bigger callipers...

In otherwords "help"....

bridgdav

4,805 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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I have been looking around as well Podie..

www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html

A couple of people suggested this site for parts supply, I'm not sure about the increase in disc size.

Have you spoken to Tower View..?

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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bridgdav said:
I have been looking around as well Podie..

<a href="http://www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html">www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html</a>

A couple of people suggested this site for parts supply, I'm not sure about the increase in disc size.

Have you spoken to Tower View..?



Thought the S ran Sierra discs, not Granada ones..?

Not spoken to Tower View yet...



EDIT - getting excited yet...?

>> Edited by Podie on Tuesday 9th March 11:08

andyf007

863 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Wasn't it Joolz who posted something about using XR4i disks and calipers as a straight forward upgrade on the S?

Andy

Shnozz

30,058 posts

294 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Joolz also sorted out a fantastic upgrade for psychobert

woody

2,189 posts

307 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Podie said:

bridgdav said:
I have been looking around as well Podie..

<a href="http://www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html"><a href="http://www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html">www.rmcarspares.co.uk/acatalog/RM_CarSpares_Braking_840.html</a></a>

A couple of people suggested this site for parts supply, I'm not sure about the increase in disc
size.

Have you spoken to Tower View..?




Thought the S ran Sierra discs, not Granada ones..?

Not spoken to Tower View yet...



EDIT - getting excited yet...?

>> Edited by Podie on Tuesday 9th March 11:08



I changed my discs & pads for the EBC ones (they're the sierra 2.0L ones - not the Granada) form RM Carspares. They're pretty decent IMHO, they stood up to a pounding round Castle Coombe, never noticed any fade. although with them being grooved and dimpled they make an interesting noise under heavy braking

Hope this helps

Although one question - if you were to upgrade the fronts (bigger disca and calipers) what would you need to do to the back (assuming you've got standard drums)?

Chris

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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I also understand RS Turbo ones fit straight on...




Joolz...?

keithyboy

1,940 posts

293 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Pod, you've been reading the article in Sprint haven't you?

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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keithyboy said:
Pod, you've been reading the article in Sprint haven't you?


Nope... still waiting for it to arrive!!!

Why? What am I missing?

keithyboy

1,940 posts

293 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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"M, S & Vixen" p. 37/8 - "S" brake upgrade to RS Turbo 260 diameter discs and callipers which apparently bolt straight on!

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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keithyboy said:
"M, S & Vixen" p. 37/8 - "S" brake upgrade to RS Turbo 260 diameter discs and callipers which apparently bolt straight on!




Cheers chap. So are the RS Turbo callipers bigger than the Sierra ones?

seasider

12,728 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Podie said:



Cheers chap. So are the RS Turbo callipers bigger than the Sierra ones?


Wont matter how big they are....still wont work if someones cut your braided hoses mate

Anyone who thinks i'm being a bit harsh please see Chimp thread....

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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seasider said:

Podie said:



Cheers chap. So are the RS Turbo callipers bigger than the Sierra ones?



Wont matter how big they are....still wont work if someones cut your braided hoses mate

Anyone who thinks i'm being a bit harsh please see Chimp thread....


bridgdav

4,805 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Ha Ha ... Podie

Fell straight into my trap....of course they are from a Sierra, I just thought I'd link to the Granada to see if you actually looked.....

Yes, I'm getting excited....

Spoke to Classicline...

They said that the upgrade would have no impact on my policy but I would have to declare the gains....

I will follow this with interest as I will probably upgrade my brakes after :-

'AUSTEC PODIE PIGGYBACK TREATMENT'

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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bridgdav said:
Ha Ha ... Podie

Fell straight into my trap....of course they are from a Sierra, I just thought I'd link to the Granada to see if you actually looked.....

Yes, I'm getting excited....

Spoke to Classicline...

They said that the upgrade would have no impact on my policy but I would have to declare the gains....

I will follow this with interest as I will probably upgrade my brakes after :-

'AUSTEC PODIE PIGGYBACK TREATMENT'


Excellent news...!

You do realise that if you get more grunt out of yours there's going to be murder!

spivvy

1,535 posts

277 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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will these fit an s3

Fits XR3i RS MK3 Escorts

240mm Diameter

25mm Thick

bridgdav

4,805 posts

271 months

Podie

Original Poster:

46,647 posts

298 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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bridgdav said:
How about these....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2465616228&category=27377


hmm.. tempting...

tvrmark

370 posts

293 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Podie said:

keithyboy said:
"M, S & Vixen" p. 37/8 - "S" brake upgrade to RS Turbo 260 diameter discs and callipers which apparently bolt straight on!





Cheers chap. So are the RS Turbo callipers bigger than the Sierra ones?


Mk4 Escort, Mk4 Escort(Mk1 RS Turbo), Feista, Sierra, TVR S3 and early Griffs all have the same brakes 240mm.

Mk4 Escort(Mk2 RS Turbo), ABS equiped Sierra, XR4x4 (they have a different part no and are more expensive but are the same), Griff 500 (and I think Sierra Cossy) all have the same front brakes, disks 260mm and slightly bigger callipers. These are a direct replacement for our standard ones.

The Sierra pads with the ABS senior are cheaper then the XR4x4 without the senior.

I have a pair of Mondao callipiers which look like they should fit and have 260mm disks. They do need a seal kit or could be used in a service exchange. If anyones interested you can have them FOC.

Mark

loudandfast

213 posts

307 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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IM USEING HUGE FORD ESCORT COSWORTH 4WD CALIPERS WITH 283mm SIERRA COSWORTH 2WD DISCS. THESE ARE STRAIGHT SWAP. TO FIT RS TURBO CALIPERS ONTO AN S YOU WILL NEED TO SWAP THEM LEFT TO RIGHT AS THE RS CALIPERS ARE LEADING IN POSITION AND THE SIERRA ARE TRAILING, SO THE BLEED NIPLES WILL BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CALIPER FOR EASIER BLEEDING. THE CALIPERS CAN BE PICKED UP FROM
RALLY DESIGN FOR £100 EACH. DRILLED OR GROOVED DISCS FROM £78 A PAIR.